Tyre Pressure TPMS / Wake-Up tool for RDC

Started by StephanT, May 20, 2013, 09:53:57 AM

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StephanT

I would like to know whether any of you own any tyre pressure wake-up tools, and if so which one... to wake these so you can learn them is a PITA, and although you can buy a BMW device, the new one will set you back some $600!

So I'm looking to see whether there are any generic devices that some of you are using.. so we could contact the manufacturer and see whether they would be willing to add support for the BMW TPMS sensors... if not, we will just have to make one... (but we'd rather focus our energy on the NEW GS-911  ;D

So, if you're using one, give us feedback ito:

  • name/brand
  • purchase cost
  • tested on a BMW TPMS successfully

Alternatively, if you're a good RF/embedded engineer.. looking for a project...send me a PM ;)

best,
Stephan
currently riding:
    BMW F850GS Adv - slightly modified
    HD Pan America - development bike for ezCAN

Jughead

I have a home made one.  Rather crued however.  Just a plastic disk on an electric motor that the attached TPM get attached to.  Spins like hell but wakes them up 9 times out of 10! Basically amounts to riding your bike at about 500km/h.  ;D ;D

StephanT

 ;D

but that assumes that the sensor is not in the wheel yet...  and in that case, most of the new sensors come with the sensor number printed on them as a barcode... that you can just enter that number into the RDC control unit, without having to wake the TPMS sensor...

see the writeup on the techinfo section on our hexcode website:
http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911/procedures/rdc

best,
Stephan
currently riding:
    BMW F850GS Adv - slightly modified
    HD Pan America - development bike for ezCAN

Jughead

Yip, the sensor is out of the wheel but in close proximity to the bike.  Usually only use it when I have replaced the TPM batteries, which I do often.

Jughead

#4
Anyone know what frequency the TPMs operate at?

I found this and wondered whether it would be compatible.  It claims to wake all existing 125KHz sensors.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Autel-TS101-Universal-TPMS-Sensor-Activation-Tool-/121052081709?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item1c2f442e2d


Inspector Gadget

#5
I believe it to be around the same frequency as the alarm, so that would be around 440 Mhz.
(433,97 MHz to be exact)
As RDC & Alarm share the same (CAN-bus) module.

But I could be wrong!

See also the document on this link;
http://www.auteltech.nl/downloadshop.php?id=180

Jughead

Quote from: DutchMidiMan on August 22, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
See also the document on this link;
http://www.auteltech.nl/downloadshop.php?id=180

Please, don't get me wrong.

I was merely using the link for the spec and graphic.  Do not intend to buy from them at all.

The TS401 from Autel does appear to support the BMW sensor.

Inspector Gadget

Quote from: Jughead on August 22, 2013, 09:26:38 PM
Please, don't get me wrong.

I was merely using the link for the spec and graphic.  Do not intend to buy from them at all.

I wasn't, but noted. ;)

Jughead

OK,so can that idea!!

TS-401 will cost around ZAR18,983.13! :o

Inspector Gadget

Wow, that is terrible mark-up price!  :o

In the Netherlands the TS-401 is 269 euro's, about 2,752.08 ZAR.
Including VAT.  ;)

http://www.auteltech.nl/resetters/254/MaxiTPMS-TS401

Maybe you have relatives in the euro-countries and perhaps they can order it for you?

Jughead

Yes, going the Chinese route it's about $220.

StephanT

Pls don't go the Chinese route... they are more than likely ripoffs of the original, which means copyright and all other IP infringements...  Let's just no go there on this forum...  Please...
currently riding:
    BMW F850GS Adv - slightly modified
    HD Pan America - development bike for ezCAN

StephanT

the differ as per country requirements, and respond with a UHF signal at either 315MHz or 433MHz (most common). The TPMS can be externally excited using a 125kHz Low Frequency signal  - however this signal is modulated... and it's no guarantee that a BMW car tool will wake (or read) a bike TPMS...
currently riding:
    BMW F850GS Adv - slightly modified
    HD Pan America - development bike for ezCAN

Jughead

Quote from: StephanT on August 27, 2013, 11:29:57 AM
Pls don't go the Chinese route... they are more than likely ripoffs of the original, which means copyright and all other IP infringements...  Let's just no go there on this forum...  Please...

Nope, as per my previous post, I have no intention of doing so.

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