10219CAN-bus error

Started by ciri, April 29, 2015, 11:35:48 AM

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ciri

hi
i have this error on my GS 1200 my 2010 (with ESA and ABS)    :   10219
i can't clear it via gs-911

The bike won't start and also the instrument cluster does not activate properly....what i can do??
thanks

schuppi

Hi ciri,
10219: CAN-bus Timeout: no communication with ZFE
disconnect battery check voltage
remove fuel tank
check wiring to ZFE
disconnect ZFE, check the pins
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ciri

already done...the bike starts and works well....eccepts for the onboard computer : i can read hour and km , but it shows no gear or any info about abs ecc ecc

fault code is the same...

ciri

#3
is the ZFE fault??  61 35 8520262



here is my faults

Motorcycle Information


VIN: WB1045006AZX14114
Mileage: 16777215.0 km
Factory I-Level: K024-10-02-550
Actual I-Level: K024-10-08-500

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BMS-KP2BMS type: BMS-KP2
Part No.: 7723394
Hardware Index: 36
Coding Index: 3
Manufacturer: Bosch
Manufacturing Date: 2010-06-05
HWOE No.: 25935553
MCV: 0.6.2
FSV: 0.77.49
OSV: 2.3.1
Factory I-Level: K024-10-02-550
Actual I-Level: K024-10-08-500
VIN model year: 2010




1 fault codes found:

10219 CAN-bus Timeout: no communication with ZFE (Central Vehicle Electronics) control unit
The fault is currently present.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tyre pressure onlyRDC/DWA type: Tyre pressure only
Part No.: 7720818
Hardware Index: C4
Coding Index: 4
Manufacturer: Schrader
HWOE No.: 25947713
MCV: 0.6.0
FSV: 2.1.0
OSV: 4.0.2




No fault codes found

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Integral ABS 2 - CANPart No.: 7711978
HW Version No.: C2
Coding Index: 0
Manufacturing Date: 2010-06-29
HWOE No.: 25695105
Manufacturer: Continental Teves
MCV: 0.6.0
FSV: 2.2.0
OSV: 3.3.0
Free programming slots: 1
Serial No.: 6A6T001E5
Hardware No.: 07682002
Hardware star No.: 07711978




1 fault codes found:

54113 CAN-bus: No Communication with Vehicle Electronics (ZFE) control unit
The fault is currently present.


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CAN-Kombi H/LCluster type: CAN-Kombi H/L
Part No.: 7725817
Hardware Index: 7
Coding Index: 7
Manufacturer: Siemens VDO Automotive
Manufacturing Date: 2008-07-18
HWOE No.: 25838105
MCV: 0.6.0
FSV: 3.4.0
OSV: 3.3.10
Factory I-Level: K024-10-02-550
Actual I-Level: K024-10-08-500
Assembly No.: 07725817




1 fault codes found:

37641 Electrical System (KL30) under-voltage
The fault is not present now.


schuppi

#4
is the ZFE fault??

Hi,
mostly not.
Check in connector J1 on ZFE pin 1/3/29 for battery plus
pin 5 for ground and pin 26 for ignition "15" plus.  I think here is something wrong.
In addition:
pin 17 can-h, pin 16 can-l >>maybe this connections failed. To measure these cables/connections you have to disconnect
all ECU's from the wiring.

And what is about this entry?
Motorcycle Information
VIN: WB1045006AZX14114
Mileage: 16777215.0 km
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ciri

eh eh

i think this is going to far from my electric business...

i don't know about mileage..i have 30000 km write on computer...

let me se if i understood well

1 i have to remove all 2 connectors from ecu
2 with a tester i have to measure volt from a pin to black pole of battery (pin 5 for ground)? and one from red pole (pin 26 for ignition "15" plus)??

where i can find the numbers to check?wrote on pins??

am i right???

schuppi

wrote on pins??

Hi ciri,
you're right! :)
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ciri

i am right???
almost incredible!!!

i have to check the 2 connectors in the way i wrote??

on the pin or on the ecu?? on the pin right??

thanks!!!!

ps what they are????

schuppi

Hi,
please pull the connectors and than measure the cables :)
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ciri

#9
ooook
tomorrow i will do it!!
to be sure...i have to measure the volt...right?? in other words if there is passage of electric current??

thanks and sorry for my ignorance!!!( i mean...electrical one!!ahah)

ps i have to leave the battery WITH all the cables connected, right?

schuppi

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ciri

ok
....I am reading your post and I realized I did not understand a couple of thing:

what does it mean "pin 26 for ignition "15" plus"??

also "pin 17 can-h, pin 16 can-l "

and...which is the connector J1? the high or lower??

schuppi

which is the connector J1? the high or lower??

Hello ciri,
connector is marked by J1 on the body of ZFE.
And if you use a good translator :) maybe this would help:
http://www.powerboxer.de/elektrik/267-4v2-zentraleinheit-defekte-bei-r1200
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ciri

hi

here is my test...

FROM ZFE pins        to       RED                           FROM CABLE        to       RED

1                              0,010                                                0
3                               0,010                                                0
26                             0,008
29                             0,006                                                 0

FROM ZFE pins        to       BLACK

5                                 0                                                  0





i made 2 measure (cable and zfe...i am pretty sure one is nonsense but....)

i miss "pin 26 for ignition "15" plus"??

also "pin 17 can-h, pin 16 can-l "

because i don't understand what i have to do....thanks!!!!

schuppi

sorry for being late

Ok. This is voltage measurement

Disconnect J1 from ZFE.
pin 1/3/29 in connector plug at the red line of your voltage meter, black to battery ground > battery voltage min 12,6V
pin 5 black line and red to battery positiv > same result > 12,6V
pin 26 red line and black to ground cycle ignition on > same result> 12,6 V


pin 17 can-h, pin 16 can-l >>maybe this connections failed. To measure these cables/connections you have to disconnect
all ECU's from the wiring. Then!! Resistance measurement!
after disconnect the battery!

pin 17 to BMS-K pin 53
pin 16 to BMS-K pin 52

pin 17 to ABS pin 30
pin 16 to ABS pin 15

here you have to read 0 Ohm Ω, otherwise check the cables for chafe marks.
Important points > wire straps

I think you need a wiring diagram. Please be careful, that's a professional job.
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