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ciri

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10219CAN-bus error
« on: April 29, 2015, 11:35:48 AM »
hi
i have this error on my GS 1200 my 2010 (with ESA and ABS)    :   10219
 i can't clear it via gs-911

The bike won't start and also the instrument cluster does not activate properly....what i can do??
thanks

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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2015, 12:15:54 PM »
Hi ciri,
10219: CAN-bus Timeout: no communication with ZFE
disconnect battery check voltage
remove fuel tank
check wiring to ZFE
disconnect ZFE, check the pins
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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2015, 05:04:08 PM »
already done...the bike starts and works well....eccepts for the onboard computer : i can read hour and km , but it shows no gear or any info about abs ecc ecc

fault code is the same...

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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2015, 05:52:31 PM »
is the ZFE fault??  61 35 8520262



here is my faults

Motorcycle Information

 
VIN: WB1045006AZX14114
Mileage: 16777215.0 km
Factory I-Level: K024-10-02-550
Actual I-Level: K024-10-08-500

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BMS-KP2BMS type: BMS-KP2
Part No.: 7723394
Hardware Index: 36
Coding Index: 3
Manufacturer: Bosch
Manufacturing Date: 2010-06-05
HWOE No.: 25935553
MCV: 0.6.2
FSV: 0.77.49
OSV: 2.3.1
Factory I-Level: K024-10-02-550
Actual I-Level: K024-10-08-500
VIN model year: 2010




1 fault codes found:

10219 CAN-bus Timeout: no communication with ZFE (Central Vehicle Electronics) control unit
The fault is currently present.
 

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Tyre pressure onlyRDC/DWA type: Tyre pressure only
Part No.: 7720818
Hardware Index: C4
Coding Index: 4
Manufacturer: Schrader
HWOE No.: 25947713
MCV: 0.6.0
FSV: 2.1.0
OSV: 4.0.2




No fault codes found

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Integral ABS 2 - CANPart No.: 7711978
HW Version No.: C2
Coding Index: 0
Manufacturing Date: 2010-06-29
HWOE No.: 25695105
Manufacturer: Continental Teves
MCV: 0.6.0
FSV: 2.2.0
OSV: 3.3.0
Free programming slots: 1
Serial No.: 6A6T001E5
Hardware No.: 07682002
Hardware star No.: 07711978




1 fault codes found:

54113 CAN-bus: No Communication with Vehicle Electronics (ZFE) control unit
The fault is currently present.
 

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CAN-Kombi H/LCluster type: CAN-Kombi H/L
Part No.: 7725817
Hardware Index: 7
Coding Index: 7
Manufacturer: Siemens VDO Automotive
Manufacturing Date: 2008-07-18
HWOE No.: 25838105
MCV: 0.6.0
FSV: 3.4.0
OSV: 3.3.10
Factory I-Level: K024-10-02-550
Actual I-Level: K024-10-08-500
Assembly No.: 07725817




1 fault codes found:

37641 Electrical System (KL30) under-voltage
The fault is not present now.
 
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 06:29:00 PM by ciri »

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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2015, 08:42:04 PM »
is the ZFE fault??

Hi,
mostly not.
Check in connector J1 on ZFE pin 1/3/29 for battery plus
pin 5 for ground and pin 26 for ignition "15" plus.  I think here is something wrong.
In addition:
pin 17 can-h, pin 16 can-l >>maybe this connections failed. To measure these cables/connections you have to disconnect
all ECU's from the wiring.

And what is about this entry?
Motorcycle Information
VIN: WB1045006AZX14114
Mileage: 16777215.0 km
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 08:44:17 PM by schuppi »
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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2015, 08:54:40 PM »
eh eh

i think this is going to far from my electric business...

i don't know about mileage..i have 30000 km write on computer...

let me se if i understood well

1 i have to remove all 2 connectors from ecu
2 with a tester i have to measure volt from a pin to black pole of battery (pin 5 for ground)? and one from red pole (pin 26 for ignition "15" plus)??

where i can find the numbers to check?wrote on pins??

am i right???

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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2015, 09:00:50 PM »
wrote on pins??

Hi ciri,
you're right! :)
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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2015, 09:04:24 PM »
i am right???
almost incredible!!!

i have to check the 2 connectors in the way i wrote??

on the pin or on the ecu?? on the pin right??

thanks!!!!

ps what they are????

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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2015, 09:22:39 PM »
Hi,
please pull the connectors and than measure the cables :)
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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2015, 09:55:16 PM »
ooook
tomorrow i will do it!!
to be sure...i have to measure the volt...right?? in other words if there is passage of electric current??

thanks and sorry for my ignorance!!!( i mean...electrical one!!ahah)

ps i have to leave the battery WITH all the cables connected, right?
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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2015, 10:03:28 PM »
Yes, you're right :)
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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2015, 10:23:44 PM »
ok
....I am reading your post and I realized I did not understand a couple of thing:

what does it mean "pin 26 for ignition "15" plus"??

also "pin 17 can-h, pin 16 can-l "

and...which is the connector J1? the high or lower??

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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2015, 11:49:04 AM »
which is the connector J1? the high or lower??

Hello ciri,
connector is marked by J1 on the body of ZFE.
And if you use a good translator :) maybe this would help:
http://www.powerboxer.de/elektrik/267-4v2-zentraleinheit-defekte-bei-r1200
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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2015, 10:16:20 AM »
hi

here is my test...

FROM ZFE pins        to       RED                           FROM CABLE        to       RED

1                              0,010                                                0
3                               0,010                                                0
26                             0,008
29                             0,006                                                 0

FROM ZFE pins        to       BLACK

5                                 0                                                  0





i made 2 measure (cable and zfe...i am pretty sure one is nonsense but....)

i miss "pin 26 for ignition "15" plus"??

also "pin 17 can-h, pin 16 can-l "

because i don't understand what i have to do....thanks!!!!

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Re: 10219CAN-bus error
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2015, 10:17:53 PM »
sorry for being late

Ok. This is voltage measurement

Disconnect J1 from ZFE.
pin 1/3/29 in connector plug at the red line of your voltage meter, black to battery ground > battery voltage min 12,6V
pin 5 black line and red to battery positiv > same result > 12,6V
pin 26 red line and black to ground cycle ignition on > same result> 12,6 V


pin 17 can-h, pin 16 can-l >>maybe this connections failed. To measure these cables/connections you have to disconnect
all ECU's from the wiring. Then!! Resistance measurement!
after disconnect the battery!

pin 17 to BMS-K pin 53
pin 16 to BMS-K pin 52

pin 17 to ABS pin 30
pin 16 to ABS pin 15

here you have to read 0 Ohm Ω, otherwise check the cables for chafe marks.
Important points > wire straps

I think you need a wiring diagram. Please be careful, that's a professional job.
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