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StephanT

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Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« on: May 29, 2013, 12:50:17 PM »
hi All,

I would like to get an idea, how many of you have Fuel Strips (as opposed to the lever type Float sensor) ?

If you have a Fuel strip, pls post your Model i.e. 2007 R1200RT, along with your VIN pls? as well as stating whether you've had yours replaced yet...

If you don't know whether your bike has a Lever type sensor or a FuelStrip sensor, pls have a look either the AutoScan or ECU info for your ZFE control unit... under the ZFE Configuration section it will either state: "Lever type fuel sensor" or "Film type fuel sensor" ...see:
 http://www.hexcode.co.za/new-beta-version-1305-released

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Stephan

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 12:52:39 PM »
Have 2009 R1200GSA, WB103800X9ZW75480

And yes, have replaced it once.

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 10:47:05 PM »
VIN WB10368005 ZM12207 Build date: July 2005 - Strip is faulty, gauge reads high and getting worse , I've no plans to replace it till BMW come up with a proper fix,

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 11:34:48 PM »
I think then you will wait a while, as BMW has just discontinued those from the 2010 models on...

I've wondered whether one can make a conversion from the levertype float, to plug into the film strip plug in the harness and still get good accurate readings...

Someone contacted me once and told me they were busy with a film strip replacement.. I'll try and find those mails again...

just checked today.. and the pinouts to the ZFE itself are completely different... for the lever type vs the film strip... and if memory serves me correctly, the film strip is 0 - 0.5V vs. the 0 - 5V for the lever type float...

Anyone have any good technical information on how the strips work? I know they're 4 pins 2 for the "film" and 2 for the heating circuit..

I'm guessing the differences in linearity will be an issue too...  Anyway, if anyone has any GOOD references / datasheets / forum writeups.. feel free to post them here too..

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Stephan

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 06:32:57 PM »
R 1200GS -08 Strip type no faulty WB10303038ZU12095

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2013, 04:02:22 PM »
2009 R1200R. One fuel-strip replacement. Got low-fuel light after filling up and erratic onboard computer readouts of range and fuel-level bars. Most aggravating was the false-positive low-fuel lamp. I use the tripmeter exclusively, ignoring OBC. Possible to code the ZFE to ignore the OBC?

Motorcycle Information
VIN: WB10398039ZS26507
Mileage: 15297.0 miles
Factory I-Level: K024-08-08-500
Actual I-Level: K024-10-02-500
BMS-KP
BMS type:   BMS-KP
Part No.:   7719873
Hardware Index:   10
Coding Index:   2
Manufacturer:   Bosch
Manufacturing Date:   2008-08-13
HWOE No.:   26932879
MCV:   0.6.0
FSV:   0.77.33
OSV:   2.3.1
Factory I-Level:   K024-08-08-500
Actual I-Level:   K024-10-02-500
VIN model year:   2009


No fault codes found
ZFE-High
ZFE type:   ZFE-High
Factory I-Level:   K024-08-08-500
Actual I-Level:   K024-10-02-500
Part No.:   7720220
Hardware Index:   3
Coding Index:   9
Manufacturing Date(YY/MM/DD):   2004-04-15
MCV:   0.6.0
FSV:   2.7.0
OSV:   3.3.0
Manufacturer:   Loewe Lear
HWOE No.:   26928039
Configuration   
   Speed sensor manufacturer is Bosch   
   Speed sensor type is DF11   
   ABS fitted   
   ESA fitted   
   ESA has hall sensor   
   Heated grips   
   Outside temperature sensor   
   Brake light switch status over CAN   
   Film type fuel sensor   
   Manual low beam off switch   
   Brake light type is LED   
   Rear light type is LED   
   Storage of temperature indication when engine hot   


No fault codes found
Tyre pressure only
RDC/DWA type:   Tyre pressure only
Part No.:   7720818
Hardware Index:   C3
Coding Index:   4
Manufacturer:   Schrader
HWOE No.:   26873879
MCV:   0.6.0
FSV:   2.1.0
OSV:   4.0.2


No fault codes found
CAN-Kombi-K7
Cluster type:   CAN-Kombi-K7
Part No.:   7713995
Hardware Index:   C3
Coding Index:   1
Manufacturer:   Preh
Manufacturing Date:   2008-07-14
HWOE No.:   26816223
MCV:   0.6.0
FSV:   2.2.0
OSV:   3.3.30
Factory I-Level:   K024-08-08-500
Actual I-Level:   K024-10-02-500
Assembly No.:   07714231


No fault codes found
Integral ABS 2 - CAN
Part No.:   7711978
HW Version No.:   C2
Coding Index:   0
Manufacturing Date:   2008-07-17
HWOE No.:   26865111
Manufacturer:   Continental Teves
MCV:   0.6.0
FSV:   2.2.0
OSV:   3.3.0
Free programming slots:   1
Serial No.:   687H00036
Hardware No.:   07682002
Hardware star No.:   07711978


No fault codes found

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 04:25:55 PM »
2007 R1200R   WB10398087ZS25141   No failures     But seems to stay on 'Full' longer than it should when I fill it all the way up.

Good luck with this.

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2013, 04:35:40 PM »
2007 R1200R WB10398087ZS25138 30K miles no failures

Anyone have any good technical information on how the strips work? I know they're 4 pins 2 for the "film" and 2 for the heating circuit..

The most convincing forum writeup I've seen appears on this page as post #48 in this advrider thread:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=758453&page=4
« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 04:44:10 PM by dbrick »
David Brick
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Santa Cruz CA

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2013, 02:46:10 AM »
2012 R1200R  WB1040009CZY77152  No Failures or issues  35000KM 

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 08:33:49 PM »
2005 R1200RT . bought used about 1.5 years ago, and my fuel strip started going out a couple weeks ago (it is currently intermittent).  I plan on bypassing it with resistors as described in the following thread (unless BMW comes out with a real solution, or someone figures out how to retrofit a float - which doesn't seem likely at this point)...

http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=770296&page=3


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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2013, 08:52:50 PM »
INlinuxdude,

Instead of spoofing, you might try repair. See post #253 in this thread: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21268240#post21268240
David Brick
2007 R1200R
Santa Cruz CA

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 08:59:05 PM »
INlinuxdude,

Instead of spoofing, you might try repair. See post #253 in this thread: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21268240#post21268240

Thanks - I tried that b4 deciding on "spoofing"...  It's actually a broken connection in the epoxied part of the fuel strip connector that is broken - sometimes it works (and the resistence value is fine), other times after some jiggling it quits working (and resistance shows open)..  Then some more jiggling and it's ok again (and resistance is fine)...  so the ignitor trick doesn't seem to help much - I tried it a BUNCH of times though just to make sure... :)

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2013, 09:09:20 PM »
Thanks. That makes sense to me.
David Brick
2007 R1200R
Santa Cruz CA

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2013, 09:38:03 PM »
2007 R1200R, November '06 production date.

Fuel strip
Replaced 6 times so far.

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Re: Fuel Strips (Film type fuel sensor)
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2013, 10:24:45 PM »
ouch... didn't know you did it THAT many times Don!

you're probably tired of doing it... but SOON you'll be able to do it with your GS-911 !!!  8)