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New GS-911
spyker:
To clarify, will the new unit be backward compatible with older bikes, or will I have to keep my existing GS-911 to service my 650 Dakar and 1200 Hexhead?
StephanT:
--- Quote from: beemer on April 27, 2013, 11:11:08 PM ---Hi lads,thanks for doing a great job.Are you planning to add film sensor and ESA calibration?
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Indeed we are... Kobus is currently working on advanced ZFE (Central Vehicle Electronics) functions and will soon have a Beta out.. however the Fuel strip calibration will not be part of this Beta... we're still trying to find a bike with a fuel strip... all our bikes have floats...
StephanT:
--- Quote from: spyker on May 03, 2013, 11:36:55 AM ---To clarify, will the new unit be backward compatible with older bikes, or will I have to keep my existing GS-911 to service my 650 Dakar and 1200 Hexhead?
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Correct... the new one will support all models that have the round 10pin diagnostic connector... I'm thinking of dropping the support (on this NEW interface) for the older 3pin connector bikes... these bikes are 20+ years old now..
StephanT:
--- Quote from: Alfred on May 03, 2013, 09:58:36 AM ---First thing first...thank got we finally have a proper forum :)
1) So my current bluetooth GS911 which I have had for only 18months will be useless for the new Wethead?...hmmm
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That is evolution... it happened to the cars a couple of years ago.. when the OEM changes the physical hardware interface... not much we can do about it.. except anticipate it, which we did, and why we started the development of the new interface 4 years ago...
you can read more on the generations here:
http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911/support/faq/will-the-k1600-ever-be-supported
--- Quote from: Alfred on May 03, 2013, 09:58:36 AM ---2) From the looks the new one will finally be IPad/Iphone compatible?
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Or as I like to see it.. finally the iPad/iPhone will be GS-911 compatible... 8)
--- Quote from: Alfred on May 03, 2013, 09:58:36 AM ---3) Suggestion....look at the possibility to give us some kind of a discount for current owners of GS911, when the new one comes out. Just to ease the pain a bit.
If point 3) will be implemented at a fair offer, then I will keep the old one for others with current/past bikes to help them out if required.
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fair - it is such an open ended concept... Discounting an already very low cost product is not that easy when the margins are as small as they are... with the size of the market and the (already generous) market penetration the current Enthusiast GS-911 should be retailing for a lot more than it is... (which is why some people what to know why we are running this community project...)
People can buy a bash plate for $300-$400.. this bash plate is designed in less than a man-month... and then sent off for mass manufacturing... ...there are not 4 engineers, and a few other support staff that are working on the upgraded version on a daily basis... You've had your GS-911 for 18months.. every 3 months there is a new Beta version... that's a minimum of 6 updates... how many of those versions have you paid for?
Now back to the original question... of whether the initial price of $349 (or $299 for the USB-only version) was a fair price? ;)
We have found an elegant solution (I think) to half of the problem.. in that the Professional interface is more expensive than the Enthusiast one... The thinking is clear... if you are making money using the tool, then you should be willing to contribute a little more to it's maintenance...
Hmmm - maybe we should implement that update fee that we were contemplating... :P
best,
Stephan
gr8ridn:
Got My K50 and sold the 1200RT so I have no use for the GS 911. The GS 911 was added to that sale. It shouldn't be a problem selling your used GS 911 once you upgrade to the new version. I say let Stephen and his group launch their new product at a fair price considering their time and effort to develop the new product. I got a lot of value from my previous unit with the software updates and the versatility to work on several of my bikes.
It's not that hard to sell your existing device. When you buy that new motorcycle with the latest electronics consider the new GS 911 as an option for the DIY owner, just like new special tools and repair manuals.
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