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F650 GS R13 / 2000 / GS911 - BMS-C: reset adaptations for TPS / IAC not working
Nicol Carstens:
Dear Jan & Wayne
--- Quote from: stardust_59 on September 15, 2018, 01:00:54 AM ---Wayne thanks again for having a look into the glass bowl.
I hooked up with hexcode support and sent them the GS911 logs.
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@Wayne, as always: big thanks for flying the flag and helping out. Apologies for the silence. I have been spending time in another trench!
@Jan: thanks for the call. Apologies for overlooking this thread. I am going to have a look at your logs and see what I can find. Hang in there please! PM you soon.
Best
Nicol
Nicol Carstens:
Hi Wayne
--- Quote from: WayneC on September 08, 2018, 03:09:42 AM ---Why you would attempt an adaption reset with the engine already running and up to operating temperature is a mystery to me
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Jan might have followed the instructions in the Hex manual? From the PC App:
"Resetting of all adaptation values (TPS zero position, lambda controller, idle regulator):
Note: In order for the BMS-C to relearn the throttle valve zero position, it is essential that the
throttle cable is correctly adjusted. Make sure that the throttle valve rests against the
mechanical stop when in the idle position, with the handlebar turned to full lock in both the left
and right position.
Note: To relearn the idle controller value, the cold engine must be started and allowed to idle until
it reaches operating temperature, approximately 80 degC (or until the fan starts up)"
:)
Nicol
Nicol Carstens:
Update for those that might be curious:
* It would appear the GS911 hardware and software is working as expected. No obvious problems with the tools.
* We have had a detailed look at Jan's logs as well as the latest PC App software. We can confirm that the problem on PC screen is the problem reported on the bus by the ECU.
* Where does this leave us? The ECU is refusing the reset. Question is why? Unfortunately, the ECU provides limited information on the conditions/status from its point of view.
* Best guess from the team at the moment is some sensor/wiring failure, but we are continuing to work with Jan to figure it out. Less likely, but not impossible: some timing issue.Keep you posted. Any words-of-wisdom from past experience as always invited.
Nicol
WayneC:
Jan
As a matter of interest what firmware version is in the BMSC ?, can you post the info from the autoscan or Nicol do you have it in the log ?
Nicol Carstens:
Hi Wayne and Jan,
I have conducted more testing using our own 2001 F650GS. It was out of town. Returned yesterday. It should be a very close match to the one Jan owns. I used the same PC App and GS911 yellow device. Our bike reads:
* Controller Name : BMS-C
* Part No. : 07668133
* HW Version No: C2
* Diagnostic index: 04
* Software Version No: 8000
* Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 2001-09-10
* Manufacturer: Hella GmbH
* Data Release: 80003601
* ECU Id (VIN) : ZH78832
--- Quote from: WayneC on September 19, 2018, 03:47:08 AM ---As a matter of interest what firmware version is in the BMSC ?, can you post the info from the autoscan or Nicol do you have it in the log?
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I actually don't have an autoscan in hand for Jan's bike, but I constructed one from the logs. It looks like the firmware on the BMS-C in our F650GS here at Hex is 8000, while the one that Jan owns is at firmware version 5001. Do you think ECU firmware could be a problem?
I performed extensive adaptation reset testing on our bike. Nothing out of place.
Regards
Nicol
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