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Paul Hoffmann

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F650GS Autoscan
« on: May 25, 2016, 07:00:57 PM »
Hi
Just connected the GS911 up to the F650GS for the first time.
I performed an autoscan and my question is about an entry under Motorcycle information where it says the VIN is invalid and mileage not available.
I looked at the BMS -C 11 and the ABS sections and there are no fault codes and to my untrained eye it seems to be showing everything I expected from reading the function chart on the web site about this bike.
It is a 2006 twin spark and I made sure I selected the correct model.
I recently bought the bike from a BMW dealer in Portugal and looking at the documentation that came with the bike the only strange thing I can see is the VIN on the documentation says the middle letters are ZR while the autoscan report is YR
I hope someone can shed some light on this and I apologise in advance if I have had a serious senior moment!!
I have copied the autoscan report and its below.
Cheers
Paul

AutoScan Report
GS-911 version: 1603.1 Datapack version: 4.1
Serial Number: GS70305411
Firmware version: 0.21.C
Registered to: Paul Hoffmann
Date: 25/05/2016 Time: 17:13:46
Motorcycle Information
VIN: WB10175A46YR98789 (invalid)
Mileage: Not available
BMS-C II
Part No.:   0007689873
HW Version:   A
Diagnosis Index:   5
Manufacturing Date:   2006-05-04
HWOE No.:   27155206
Program release:   180E
Manufacturer:   Hella
Data release:   180ED606
Operating time:   451h 40m 36s
VIN:   WB10175A46YR98789 (invalid)


No fault codes found
ABS-N
Part No.:   2335804
HW Version No.:   18
Coding Index:   0
Diagnostic Index:   11
Manufacturing Date:   2006-03-28
HWOE No.:   53063342
Software Version No.:   17
Manufacturer:   DENSO


No fault codes found

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Re: F650GS Autoscan
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2016, 03:05:56 AM »
The VIN has been entered in error (it is actually a 2011 F800 VIN now) and it can be corrected when a firmware update is done, the firmware in the BMSCII  is 180E which is quite old (2004) and so it would be worth updating it to 210E which was released in 2008

I would have expected firmware version 190E or even 200E to have been in a 2006 model, perhaps the BMSCII was replaced at some point

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Re: F650GS Autoscan
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2016, 09:51:19 AM »
Thanks Wayne for a swift answer.
Do you mean a firmware update on the bike as the 911 is up to date?
Paul

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Re: F650GS Autoscan
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2016, 12:01:42 PM »
Yes, update of the firmware in the BMSCII Engine Management ECU of the bike, there are quite a few fixes in the later versions

With the GS911 Yellow, you only need to update the PC software version which will tell you when a new version is available if the PC is internet connected when you open the GS911 application

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Re: F650GS Autoscan
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2016, 12:58:49 PM »
Cheers Wayne
 

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Re: F650GS Autoscan
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2016, 11:02:15 PM »
Hi Wayne

Just visited the BMW dealer in Portugal and I can't convince them that there is an update for the bike.
I don't think they are impressed with me having a way of looking at the electronics. 
I watched then input the correct VIN but running an autoscan when i got home showed no change.  My major problem here is the language and also they are 4 hours away.
If I leave the situation as it is I am correct in assuming that everything else on the GS911 will work correctly when I hook it up to the 650GS?
I hope this makes sense, I have attached a copy of todays autoscan.
Regards

Paul

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Re: F650GS Autoscan
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2016, 03:26:57 AM »
Paul

Firstly re VIN, look at the compliance plate on the bike and confirm the VIN stored in the BMSCII is different to that on the compliance plate

Re firmware version, there are 190ED606, 200ED606 EU2 compliant firmware updates for your machine and then a 210ED620 EU3 update in 2010

I dont know whether the Dealership you went to was an Authorised BMW Dealer but if they were they deserve a kick in the butt. They should know only too well there are updates available and should have been applied to the bike during normal servicing years ago

On the 650GS models the VIN and mileage is manually entered by the tech at the dealership when programming. Where an invalid VIN is entered the next time the bike is connected to the programming application it prompts the tech to ask whether to use the VIN or correct it. Once corrected the application then prepares a "measures plan" and determines which firmware version should be programmed into the BMSCII, the tech has limited ability to change it.

You are correct the Autoscan you attached does not show they made any changes

Yes GS911 will work fine, the bike however would be much better updated to at least 200ED606 firmware
« Last Edit: September 28, 2016, 03:28:53 AM by WayneC »

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Re: F650GS Autoscan
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2016, 10:08:13 AM »
Hi wayne
Thanks for the reply, yes they are an authorised dealer and yes they do deserve a kick in the butt.
My opinion of two dealers now in Portugal is they are not interested unless they can charge you for the servicing so I think I will wait until I take the bike back to the UK and don't have a language problem.
At least it will not stop me using the 911 on the bike.
Regards
Paul

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Re: F650GS Autoscan
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2016, 10:42:48 AM »
No worries Paul, waiting til you are back in the UK is probably a wise move, understand though that the failure of Dealers to do updates during normal servicing was a frustration of a BMW Oz rep I spoke to earlier in the year. I mean if a Dealer looked and saw a machine needed an update, a quick call to the owner saying it would cost a couple of $ in the time taken to do it would not annoy an owner, they would thank the Dealer for being diligent yet owners all round the world report the dealers are not updating machines
« Last Edit: September 28, 2016, 10:44:43 AM by WayneC »