GS-911 and ezCAN User Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: German Larrain (Chile) on July 06, 2015, 11:16:31 PM
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Does anyone know or done a non-BMW accessory installation, where you can command its functioning through existent BMW bike switches, levers, wheel, etc. i.e. Fog lights that turns on each time you press the high beam light.
There is a company that do offer an auxiliary lights Kit, that include, what they call a Can Opener, which allow to program at the same CAN-BUS (or should be Line-Bus if 1200GSW) BMW protocol. On top of that, using the same can-opener module you can program and drive additional accessories, i.e a Horn.
The company is Clear Water Light and the product is CANopener module provides a plug-and-play solution to integrate control of the company's lineup of high-performance lights directly into the bike's existing switchgear. They don't sell the module alone, you have to buy the light kit, and there not cheap.
I believe this is a great new !!!!
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It is not that new.. We had a conversation with them some years ago (when they were a stand opposite us at the BMW MOA), and I mentioned to Glenn that we had done something like that as a prototype already - even offered to help them.... :)
That being said, their system only works on the R1200 LC as far as I know.. (it's been a while since I checked the details)... - HOWEVER, you might be interested to know that we are beta testing a similar Product...:
- Connects to Battery,
- Connects to the CAN-bus (simply plugs in, and covers ALL CAN-bus models, starting from R1200GS of 2004 to all the latest models of 2015!)
- 4 outputs:
- - 2x front LEDs (Left and right) - for you to use on ANY LED lamps of your choice
- - 1x Ignition output
- - 1x Aux/Brake light output
Some features:
- All output channels have configurable output fuses (for each channel)
- programmable OFF-delay on ignition output
- optional strobing on Horn and Flash-to-Pass
- Setting the brightness levels for High beam and Low beam (for both Day and Night mode)
- Driving Auxiliary brake lights (including optional 4Hz/5Hz flashing and optional flashing on harsh braking)
- Uses all the bike's switches - no additional switches to fit!
sound interesting? :o
...just saying... :D
best
Stephan
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Stephan, great project, you can count on me for test. Definitely it will be a great jump forward, in the integration of non-BMW accessories to the bike, eliminating all the extra wiring, relays, etc. One important advantage, compare to competitors, might be that, (I assume) doesn't require to buy any accessory, to get the unit. Interesting, that these days, it is more possible than in the past, giving some actual accessories have less electric consumption, (i.e.LED lights), so they can be drive or command directly from the bike, eliminating the need of relays, cables, etc.
Along this subject, it can be fantastic if this unit or the actual interface, can provide the functionality of reconciling (harmonizing) the installation of BMW accessories. Today,at least in my country, you we need to go trough the BMW dealer, forcing to buy the accessory from them. i.e. GPS, LED Lamps, etc.
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Stephan,
Where will you announce this new product of yours? It sounds very interesting.
Mike
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Very interested as well!
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Stephan,
Where will you announce this new product of yours? It sounds very interesting.
Mike
not sure yet... it still needs a sexy shell... before it's done... gone are the days when a square black box was a good enough housing... ;D
best
Stephan
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If I may make a suggestion, IMHO epoxy or silicon embedded will cover the waterproof need, and believe that considering the unit will be hidden, the look is not that important. A relay keep being a Black Box.
Best
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Hammond make sexy black boxes with curved corners ;D
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Hi all,
I bought the Darla lights from Clearwater with the Canbus setup, it works very well with the wonder wheel to set the intensity. You can also program it to strobe if press the horn or the hazard button. Yes, it's not cheap but works great, compatible with Canbus, small and very bright and 10 power setting for low light setting.
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HOWEVER, you might be interested to know that we are beta testing a similar Product...:
- Connects to Battery,
- Connects to the CAN-bus (simply plugs in, and covers ALL CAN-bus models, starting from R1200GS of 2004 to all the latest models of 2015!)
- 4 outputs:
- - 2x front LEDs (Left and right) - for you to use on ANY LED lamps of your choice
- - 1x Ignition output
- - 1x Aux/Brake light output
Some features:
- All output channels have configurable output fuses (for each channel)
- programmable OFF-delay on ignition output
- optional strobing on Horn and Flash-to-Pass
- Setting the brightness levels for High beam and Low beam (for both Day and Night mode)
- Driving Auxiliary brake lights (including optional 4Hz/5Hz flashing and optional flashing on harsh braking)
- Uses all the bike's switches - no additional switches to fit!
sound interesting? :o
...just saying... :D
best
Stephan
Any updates on this project?
I can honestly say, as soon as you guys make this available, I'll be buying one.
Mikko
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It's interesting but they are on the market "cleawater" for quit some times now and you guys just have a beta vesion. When you expect to come on the market, that's the question?!
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It's interesting but they are on the market "cleawater" for quit some times now and you guys just have a beta vesion. When you expect to come on the market, that's the question?!
Clearwater doesn't sell the Canopener separately, you can only get it as a apart of a very expensive kit.
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Hi Stephan
Any news regarding this very interesting solution?
Kind regards
Sebastian
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It's interesting but they are on the market "cleawater" for quit some times now and you guys just have a beta vesion. When you expect to come on the market, that's the question?!
Clearwater doesn't sell the Canopener separately, you can only get it as a apart of a very expensive kit.
Well I guess now is a good time to ramp up the feedback on this project ;-)
remember we make a GS-911... and that has kept us pretty busy... I had discussions about this with Glenn from Clearwater at one of the MOA's ... we had our proof of concept then already.. it was just a matter of prioritizing the development/industrialization...
There are sooo many people that want to use their own lights of choice... and there are very few options for them... and that is what we'll be offering... AND userfriendly setup and configuration... :D
best
Stephan
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It's interesting but they are on the market "cleawater" for quit some times now and you guys just have a beta vesion. When you expect to come on the market, that's the question?!
Clearwater doesn't sell the Canopener separately, you can only get it as a apart of a very expensive kit.
Anyone done the maths to see what the same clearwater lights cost for a non-wethead... vs wethead with the canopener...? i.e. the cost of the canopener...
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Hi Stephan
Any news regarding this very interesting solution?
Kind regards
Sebastian
I installed one last week... it took me just over 4 minutes... (naturally excluding the lights and their routing...)
Pls let me know what bike you have and what lights you have or what lights you're going to use on your bike...
here are some images to wet the appetite...
(http://i.imgur.com/ZJp3coN.png)
and what the configuration software looks like for the default configuration... (standard microUSB cable (no funny cables or non-standard connections)... waterproof of course)
(http://i.imgur.com/rr3ciFU.png)
and if you want to select a different channel configuration (if for example you want to drive a Denali SoundBomb directly... NO RELAY! ...or something heavy on the auxiliary output....)...
(http://i.imgur.com/fcGROOT.png)
note the channel colour-coding...
So who is keen to test...????? ;D
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That looks interesting!
R1200 GS from 2004.
I want to replace the front lights, low beam and high beam with LED.
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Stephan, congratulations. Happy to see you have built a product already. I´ll work for CanBus as well as LineBus ? More than happy to test and provide feedback to you on any bike. I have immediate access to all models.
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That looks interesting!
R1200 GS from 2004.
I want to replace the front lights, low beam and high beam with LED.
current version is only for the Wethead... We're finalizing the connector assembly for the "other" bikes.. - send me a PM and I'll add you to the test list.. ;-)
best
Stephan
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Stephan, congratulations. Happy to see you have built a product already. I´ll work for CanBus as well as LineBus ? More than happy to test and provide feedback to you on any bike. I have immediate access to all models.
it works on the CAN-bus... but for both the new and old CAN-bus... so from 2004 and on... ;-)
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:)
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I'm really interesting your product and would love to be added on the test list.
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Hello,
Any news regarding release date ?
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That looks interesting!
R1200 GS from 2004.
I want to replace the front lights, low beam and high beam with LED.
current version is only for the Wethead... We're finalizing the connector assembly for the "other" bikes.. - send me a PM and I'll add you to the test list.. ;-)
best
Stephan
I sent you a PM. This sounds great for the horn I have plus I run a phone and two GoPro's.
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Hello,
Could you please let us know the status ? It would be very nice for your clients...