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slipps35

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Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« on: November 19, 2022, 05:57:47 PM »
I have a 2017 S1000RR race bike. We replaced the front loom (where the injectors join) due to an ongoing fault this year.
I have not ran the bike since, but now if I leave it for a few minutes it will show up and engine fault for an implausible signal from the side stand switch.
I clear it, and the bike will run and start several times no problem. Then I will start it again and the bike with show up the side stand fault switch.

Any suggestions? Thanks

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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2022, 08:45:15 AM »
I had a clutch fault on my k1600 for the longest time.  I traced to to the 2010-2016 (K1600GTL K48) Switch Clutch Dual Microphone Switch.  Not sure why it is named a microphone as it is actually just two mini micro switches that were glued together.  Of course BMW wanted $178 for the stupid thing.  I found the mini-micro switchs on alibaba for .69 cents each.  I glued them together and swapped out the bad switches located under the clutch handle.  Been working great for over two years now.  Somewhere on this I posted the part numbers.  I would suspect the kickstand has the same switch.  Try to get the waterproof microswitch. 

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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2022, 05:13:46 AM »
You are so smart. My car is breaking down just like you. I will try.
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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2022, 09:53:31 AM »
The clutch switch is just a simple $2 mini-micro switch.  https://www.shopbmwmotorcycles.com/oem-parts/bmw-motorrad-dual-microphone-switch-61317690700?c=az0x   The side stand would be very similar.  You can buy them on ebay or alibaba for $2 ish. 

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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2022, 10:04:37 AM »
here is the part number I used for my clutch switches:  5PCS CHERRY ZF micro switch DB2 DB2C-A1AA -A1LA -A1RB DC2 DC2C-A1AA -A1LA -A1RB -A1LC 10A 250V NEW and ORIGINAL   Keep in mind they do not have the fancy BMW connector.  I just cut the bmw wires at the bad switch and soldered these switches in place.  Been working great for several months now.  They do have a water proof version but I can not remember the part number.  So far I have rode in rain and no issues.  https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832782994985.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.5a181802iu5TJ8&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US

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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2023, 07:02:12 AM »
FWIW, the BMW sidestand switch and clutch switches are completely different, and are not interchangeable.

This is what the sidestand switch looks like.  It is NOT a microswitch!



I would try bridging out the sidestand switch to see whether the issue persists.  If it does, then you have a fault elsewhere in the harness.  If the issue is resolved, you then have a choice to either just leave the switch bridged out (which creates a bit of a safety issue) or to replace it with a new one.

You can bridge it out by unplugging it and then shorting out these two pins on the harness side of the connector.
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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2023, 02:07:53 PM »
Thank Jughead.  I just assumed the kickstand switch would be the same microswitch.  It is goo to know I can bypass it when it goes out.Awesomesauce.  Can I pick your brain on a different issue please?  When I hit a pothole I get an "Adaptive Lighting" fault on my display. Looks like a spring symbo.  l https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.k1600forum.com%2Fthreads%2Ffault-message.108057%2F&psig=AOvVaw1ii_8BYgtQv1sR7GBrHKa9&ust=1684497976343000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA0QjRxqFwoTCOj4mJPq_v4CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD   I replaced the sensor located between the front wheel and the steering column.  It got better but still pops up on rough roads.

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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2023, 07:10:35 AM »
It would appear that this is another typical AI response from Victorpatrick, just like all his others.

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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2023, 02:58:45 AM »
It would appear that this is another typical AI response from Victorpatrick, just like all his others.

My thoughts as well

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Re: Intermittent fault - side stand switch
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2023, 02:42:18 PM »
It would appear that this is another typical AI response from Victorpatrick, just like all his others.

It's crazy out here