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elptxjc:
When I bought my new 2020 R1250R (on Oct 02, '21), it had a service warning already, which was somehow introduced by an incompetent tech when he did the PDI. The BMW specialist wasn't there, so I had to take the bike another day. When I returned, he connected the bike to the BMW computer, and told me the guy somehow did update it correctly, and that it showed the latest software version. He recommended I went every year and pay an hour of 'troubleshooting' to get it updated. My bike works perfectly fine, so I see no need to do that. Plus the dealer is far away. So haven't come back. It'd be great being able to update it ourselves from our computers, even if we have to pay for it. I do my own service, so my bike might never touch another dealer again if I can avoid it :).

botus:
ha, your timing is perfect

every BMW dealer MUST flash the current software at the bike upon sale - it leaves the factory in that 1/3rd year production disaster software release and multiple bugs might be fixed by the time of sale

like no brake lights, headlights that turn off when the wipers go on - its all mad in modern vehicles...  as for an annual update, great idea - I ask every time its in, the correct charge is 10 minutes labour !!!

just this week a guy with a Merc saying he doesn't understand why things don't work - so I told him WHY updates are a very good idea, and shared how many updates my BMW has had just before the 3 years warranty ended

are you sitting comfortably - then i'll begin

people need to realise the software in cars and bikes was once written by a coder that understood floppy discs, not cars or bikes - they retired just as the tech industry started making chips like confetti around 17 years ago - thus the world had moved, now needing far more coding, but there's no competent ones left to try...

what we have on today's cars and bikes is software written by the same people that write jokes for Asda's value range of Christmas crackers - to help them make something that to some degree mostly operates - we invented compiler tools - these act like washing machines for noughts and ones - where no one actually understands any of it anymore - when a bug is found they just put some more washing powder in and try a faster spin cycle and hope it works this time

all of which means every other day some part of the software in your car or bike stumbles about misbehaving, as it comes across another mistake no one knows about or understands why its happening, let alone how to resolve - with a 2015 car you likely have a list of a million rows of code in 25 modules that was written less badly many years ago - but were never applied to your car

the cost to try the updates is really peanuts - but the gear to do it is 11k a year rental for each garage - Thus with 9 million vehicles out there and around 1 system to do 100 cars a day, they pretend there is no benefit in updating the cars software - for a start no one tells them why the update exists - so they have all become expert proponents in selling a pitch that its pointless - one driver of that, is because the manu can't admit (legally would be a bit dim) under these conditions the airbags will never operate, the ESP goes on holiday every year sometime (but they haven't worked out its calendar yet), and the engine tends to play up on the M25 and M1 in alternate years on odd numbered dates every December... Yet we fixed most of that for 10 customers last year, but now 6 say it makes the wiper blades operate 6 times on the 4th of July, and had we updated you car correctly when it was in for its service your wife wouldn't be hospital now...

my 2019 BWM bike has had five complete rewrites to everyone of its 15 computer modules - with two modules running iterations of jokeware 4 versions on from the one's it left the cowboysRus manu site with - the trouble with virtually all cars and bikes is no one ever updates any of it for its entire life... the reason I'm letting you know, is my BM SOS joke was playing up in in May with intermittent connections and does it less after the updates...

and here's the bike - see bold and then red - note dates are back to front year first

XBMSMP1 : -
Controller Type : Engine Controller
Controller Name : XBMSMP1
Manufacturer : Bosch GmbH
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) : 18/12/04
Program Count : 3

XABS : -
Controller Type : ABS Brakes
Controller Name : XABS
Manufacturer : AABG
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) : 18/12/02
Variant : ABS-Pro + Hillstart + Dynamic Braking
Program Count : 1

XFSA : -
Controller Type : Satellite Body Controller
Controller Name : XFSA
Manufacturer : Loewe / Lear
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) : 18/10/27
Program Count : 2

XSAF : -
Controller Type : Semi-active Suspension
Controller Name : XSAF
Manufacturer : Temic
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) : 18/11/16
Program Count : 2

XDWA : -
Controller Type : Anti-Theft Alarm
Controller Name : XDWA
Manufacturer : META System S.P.A.
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) : 18/11/19
Program Count : 3

XTPM : -
Controller Type : Emergency (Telematics) Module
Controller Name : XTPM
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) : 18/09/28
Program Count : 2


had they not updated from the one it left the building with it would have a zero.... like this one

XASW : -
Controller Type : Active Headlight
Controller Name : XASW
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD) : 18/08/27
Program Count : 0

botus:
on a roll today

SIB 63 01 20
RECALL CAMPAIGN 20V-146 CORRECTION OF VEHICLE ORDER,
EMERGENCY BRAKING STOP LAMP
2020-04-28
Please perform the procedure outlined in this Service Information on all affected vehicles before customer
delivery. In the event the customer has already taken delivery of the vehicle, please perform the procedure
the next time the vehicle is in the shop.
This Service Information Bulletin replaces Delivery Stop 630007.
MODEL
E-Series Model Description Type Code
K21 R nineT 0J03
K22 R nineT Pure 0J13
K23 R nineT Scrambler 0J33
K47 S 1000 R 0D62
K50 R 1250 GS 0J93
K51 R 1250 GS Adventure 0J53
K53 R 1250 R 0J73
K54 R 1250 RS 0J83
K67 S 1000 RR 0E23
K80 F 750 GS 0B18
K81 F 850 GS 0B19
K82 F 850 GS Adventure 0K03
K83 F 900 R 0K13
K84 F 900 XR 0K23
AFFECTED VEHICLES

5/7/2020 63 01 20_RECALL CAMPAIGN 20V-146 CORRECTION OF VEHICLE ORDER, EMERGENCY BRAKING STOP LAMP

You should not sell, lease or deliver any Certified Pre-Owned or used motorcycles subject to a
safety recall until the repair is completed
Please follow any special instructions that we provide to you for the return or disposition of
recall parts
SITUATION
Vehicles were produced with an emergency stop signal function in which the brake light flashes during
emergency braking. This functionality does not comply with US regulations and therefore must be turned off
through recoding (programming) the vehicle.

PRODUCTION SOLUTION
As of February 20, 2020 vehicles are produced without this fault

nearly had another for you - but its only these where there is a software update because the headlights don't work correctly

7/1/2021 63 01 21_HEADLIGHT FUNCTIONALITY LIMITATIONS DUE TO LIN-BUS CONNECTIVITY FAULT
1/2
SIB 63 01 21
HEADLIGHT FUNCTIONALITY LIMITATIONS DUE TO LIN-BUS
CONNECTIVITY FAULT
2021-06-30
This Service Information Bulletin replaces SI 63 01 21 dated February 2021.
MODEL
E-Series Model Description Date Range/Details
K21 R Nine T 2021+ with LED Headlight
K22 R Nine T Pure 2021+ with LED Headlight
K23 R Nine T Scrambler 2021+ with LED Headlight
K33 R Nine T Urban G/S 2021+ with LED Headlight
K34 R 18 / R 18 Classic
K50 R 1250 GS 2021+ 3rd generation headlights
with cornering light function.
K51 R 1250 GS Adventure 2021+ 3rd generation headlights
with cornering light function.
K69 S 1000 XR
K83 F 900 R
K84 F 900 XR

elptxjc:
Thank you for that info. I updated my post with the date I bought my 2020 R1250R HP with 0 miles: It was on Oct 02, 2021. So it already had all of the issues corrected, which also included the connectivity (bluetooth) update. Forgot the software version my bike has now, but must be current, or just one version behind. Dealer tech said BMW updated the software like once a year. The US didn't offer 'active headlight', by the way (my bike has all available options back then), nor an LED one, even though the owner's manual only says they came with LED headlights; go figure. Finally, as much as I don't like taking my vehicles to (incompetent) dealers, if there's a problem that needs to get fixed and I cannot do it myself (or too expensive), of course I take them in.
 

botus:
most R1250GSA in the UK are full spec with LED's, keyless,  LCD dash, Axu lights etc.

the other day i was in the showroom and they had loads of the new models in the showroom  many with NON led lights - with this chip shortage they have done the dirty and built LOTS of budget spec stuff - I expect they'll pedal to ignorant leaseholders....

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