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Adjusting turn signal parameters?

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Inspector Gadget:
There are no stupid idea's in my book, only stupid responses.  ;)

But seriously, good question & suggestions;
Unfortunately, the switch-inputs (including brake, turn-signals) and the bulbs (brake, turn-signals, even headlights) are all directly connected to the ZFE.
There are no relays or other elaborate electronics in between those inputs nor outputs.

The ZFE is basically the controller who takes input (switches) and drives the output (the bulbs).

So, the only thing one could consider is to block the signal going to the bulbs, depending on the switches and, in this case, also the neutral light.
But obtaining that Neutral signal from that light won't be easy as that comes from the instrumentpanel, and that receives the neutral-signal, yep, indeed, via CAN-bus. (read: data-stream, kind of).

It won't be an easy task, and you won't be able to influence the turn-signals themselves (as these are driven by the ZFE) all but block the signal going to the turn-signals.
However, I do not know how CAN-bus will react, as it also have defective-bulb detection as well.

And I know from personal experiences that can create havoc, e.g. my factory-cruise control is adversely affected by my Kisan tailblazer.

Haakon:
I am laying down, face in the mud  ;D
As I do not have a CAN-Bus bike to "play" with I can not say for sure.
That said, try think of this as any other directional signal flasher.
The most simple modification would be a signal delay.
You activate the directiona, right or leftl.
IF that signal is delayed or stopped untill the bike is in gear, clutch (handle released) and no brake is applied...
To do that is NOTtoo  dificult

 

Inspector Gadget:
Hmm, good thinking outside the box!

It would require intercepting the neutral signal (from the dashboard, as the R1200 does not have a neutral switch), and/or clutch-signal, the brake-switches (front and foot, yes, two separate ones on the 1200RT) and "delay" those under certain circumstances being sent to the ZFE.

Something like an XOR and perhaps a Boolean AND, OR's, NOR's and NAND as well;

XOR:
0 + 0 = 0
0 + 1 = 1
1 + 0 = 1
1 + 1 = 0

AND:
0 + 0 = 0
0 + 1 = 0
1 + 0 = 0
1 + 1 = 1

And thus would be something like;
Neutral-Light AND Clutch-Switch XOR Front-brake Switch NOR Foot-brake Switch and so on.

I guess what the ZFE does also along those lines, but then takes (only) into account the distance travelled and the time.

I would need to sleep over it.  ;D

Haakon:
I am drowned and dead now- in the mud- by talking and not knowing :)
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Ouch- yes I understand what you say.
I did not know it was a "complete" CanBus system.
I had a tiny hope it was only partial...
That said, it is better to go all the way than make a analog/ digital system.
Haakon

 

Inspector Gadget:
I do apologize, I did not mean to overwhelm you, of course!

Yes, the R1200 could almost be described as software-on-wheels in that respect.
CAN-bus simplified many things, but when it comes to electronics, there is little one can do for modifications before CAN-bus (or another sub-system) alerts on that, possibly affecting the bike.
A solution and a curse at the same time, I suppose.  ;)

Hence the reason we all hope that HexCode can do something to adjust the parameters of the turn-signal system soonest.
(amongst other things, once they dive into that, grin)

Mind you, HexCode can already adjust the speedometer (miles/kilometres), of the instrument cluster (KOMBI).

So, I expect it will only be a matter of time.

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