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Title: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on April 18, 2013, 11:35:52 PM
There is a rumor of a new GS-911 on the horizon...  :D

What would you like to see changed from the current GS-911 to the NEW GS-911?

NOTE: this thread is not about getting us to promise and fix a release date!  It is not about quibbling about the cost!  If you want to mention cost, it better be to ask for our account number with the intention of depositing a minimum of $1million  :)

Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Aladrian on April 22, 2013, 04:54:34 PM
Smaller is always better.   :)

Sounds like you've already covered the iOS problems with the wifi approach...

More personalization of the bike's on board computer.

Perhaps a higher real time value capability, with on-board storage and later retrieval.  (no drool smiley)

Al...
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on April 22, 2013, 05:17:47 PM
thanks Al,

for those that don't know what we're talking about, pls read this FAQ:
 http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911/support/faq/will-the-k1600-ever-be-supported

And have a look at this quick clip:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raShZE9CLdM[/youtube]

Regarding real-time values... we show what is available for every controller... the newer the controller the more real-time values it is able to present... (

..with on-board storage for later retrieval : tick

...more personalization : this is not dependent on the NEW GS-911 interface, but rather coding - we've started playing with this... but will be more detailed as soon as we cover the Instrument clusters in more detail... (as coding is in the KOMBI (cluster) unit)

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on April 22, 2013, 11:54:21 PM
Hi Stephan,

Will the"new" GS 911 work with the older bikes and the K48, K50 models?

Will there be an upgrade plan for existing customers?

Lastly, do you expect to bring this new tool to the July BMWMOA rally in Salem Or?

I look forward to seeing you there.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on April 23, 2013, 05:04:14 PM
Correct, all the current models that have the 10pin connector as well the the new chassis type referred to as K001 by BMW (with currently are the K48 and K50)

We're working real hard on the new unit and you will see it in action at the MOA

As for an upgrade plan, we'll have to think about this some more... (and you're welcome to make suggestions) - however I cannot see a way to do this yet... (given the size of the market vs. the development cost + cost of the product).

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: marchyman on April 23, 2013, 07:51:12 PM
I will buy the new device when it is available.   I got my money worth from the original GS-911 and now that my GS is gone (I'm waiting for BMW to build the GSW I ordered) my original GS-911 went to a friend who still has a hexhead and has lusted over the device for a while.  That is all the "upgrade" I need.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Jughead on April 24, 2013, 08:22:46 AM
I would really like to see a function to me able to marry an ABS controller to the the bikes electronics.  I often replace ABS pumps and each time it calls for a visit to the local dealer.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on April 27, 2013, 07:41:25 AM
Correct, all the current models that have the 10pin connector as well the the new chassis type referred to as K001 by BMW (with currently are the K48 and K50)

We're working real hard on the new unit and you will see it in action at the MOA

As for an upgrade plan, we'll have to think about this some more... (and you're welcome to make suggestions) - however I cannot see a way to do this yet... (given the size of the market vs. the development cost + cost of the product).

best,
Stephan

Thanks Stephen,

I appreciate the effort to show this new device at the MOA Rally in July. I will buy if it is available at that time. K50 on order :)

I will plan to sell my current GS 911 once I have the new GS 911.

Regards,
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: beemer on April 27, 2013, 11:11:08 PM
Hi lads,thanks for doing a great job.Are you planning to add film sensor and ESA calibration?
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Alfred on May 03, 2013, 09:58:36 AM
First thing first...thank got we finally have a proper forum  :)

1) So my current bluetooth GS911 which I have had for only 18months will be useless for the new Wethead?...hmmm
2) From the looks the new one will finally be IPad/Iphone compatible?

3) Suggestion....look at the possibility to give us some kind of a discount for current owners of GS911, when the new one comes out. Just to ease the pain a bit.

If point 3) will be implemented at a fair offer, then I will keep the old one for others with current/past bikes to help them out if required.

I will be trading in my R1200RT Hexhead when the new Wasserkopf RT comes out.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: spyker on May 03, 2013, 11:36:55 AM
To clarify, will the new unit be backward compatible with older bikes, or will I have to keep my existing GS-911 to service my 650 Dakar and 1200 Hexhead?
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 03, 2013, 01:13:55 PM
Hi lads,thanks for doing a great job.Are you planning to add film sensor and ESA calibration?
Indeed we are... Kobus is currently working on advanced ZFE (Central Vehicle Electronics) functions and will soon have a Beta out.. however the Fuel strip calibration will not be part of this Beta... we're still trying to find a bike with a fuel strip... all our bikes have floats...
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 03, 2013, 01:18:12 PM
To clarify, will the new unit be backward compatible with older bikes, or will I have to keep my existing GS-911 to service my 650 Dakar and 1200 Hexhead?
Correct... the new one will support all models that have the round 10pin diagnostic connector... I'm thinking of dropping the support (on this NEW interface) for the older 3pin connector bikes... these bikes are 20+ years old now..
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 03, 2013, 01:57:38 PM
First thing first...thank got we finally have a proper forum  :)

1) So my current bluetooth GS911 which I have had for only 18months will be useless for the new Wethead?...hmmm
That is evolution... it happened to the cars a couple of years ago.. when the OEM changes the physical hardware interface... not much we can do about it.. except anticipate it, which we did, and why we started the development of the new interface 4 years ago...

you can read more on the generations here:
 http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911/support/faq/will-the-k1600-ever-be-supported

2) From the looks the new one will finally be IPad/Iphone compatible?
Or as I like to see it.. finally the iPad/iPhone will be GS-911 compatible...  8)

3) Suggestion....look at the possibility to give us some kind of a discount for current owners of GS911, when the new one comes out. Just to ease the pain a bit.

If point 3) will be implemented at a fair offer, then I will keep the old one for others with current/past bikes to help them out if required.
fair - it is such an open ended concept... Discounting an already very low cost product is not that easy when the margins are as small as they are... with the size of the market and the (already generous) market penetration the current Enthusiast GS-911 should be retailing for a lot more than it is... (which is why some people what to know why we are running this community project...)

People can buy a bash plate for $300-$400.. this bash plate is designed in less than a man-month... and then sent off for mass manufacturing... ...there are not 4 engineers, and a few other support staff that are working on the upgraded version on a daily basis... You've had your GS-911 for 18months.. every 3 months there is a new Beta version... that's a minimum of 6 updates... how many of those versions have you paid for?

Now back to the original question... of whether the initial price of $349 (or $299 for the USB-only version) was a fair price?  ;)

We have found an elegant solution (I think) to half of the problem.. in that the Professional interface is more expensive than the Enthusiast one... The thinking is clear... if you are making money using the tool, then you should be willing to contribute a little more to it's maintenance...

Hmmm - maybe we should implement that update fee that we were contemplating...  :P

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on May 03, 2013, 04:30:48 PM
Got My K50 and sold the 1200RT so I have no use for the GS 911. The GS 911 was added to that sale. It shouldn't be a problem selling your used GS 911 once you upgrade to the new version.  I say let Stephen and his group launch their new product at a fair price considering their time and effort to develop the new product. I got a lot of value from my previous unit with the  software updates and the versatility to work on several of my bikes.

It's not that hard to sell your existing device. When you buy that new motorcycle with the latest electronics consider the new GS 911 as an option for the DIY owner, just like new special tools and repair manuals.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Theo on May 03, 2013, 09:10:40 PM
Just wondering how long the current GS-911 would be supported after the NEW GS-911 hits the market? I'm not sure if you've had discussions regarding anticipated horizon for the current unit's deprecation, but the longer it can be supported (without new features, mind you), the easier it will be for current customers to sell their old units and invest in the new ones. Thus, you would be, in effect, "discounting" the new units for current customers by ensuring the viability of the (old) used GS-911 market.

This support for the old unit could be limited to operational issues and "how-to" questions. No new software with new features or new bike models would be issued. Essentially, the product would be frozen for a period of time (a year or two?) before it becomes officially deprecated.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: spyker on May 03, 2013, 10:29:39 PM
To clarify, will the new unit be backward compatible with older bikes, or will I have to keep my existing GS-911 to service my 650 Dakar and 1200 Hexhead?
Correct... the new one will support all models that have the round 10pin diagnostic connector... I'm thinking of dropping the support (on this NEW interface) for the older 3pin connector bikes... these bikes are 20+ years old now..

That is great news! Can't wait to get my hands on the first one!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Dmftoy1 on May 04, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
Money and free beer in hand Stephan!!  (Just sayin)

 :) - my k1600 is really tired of the 100 mile boring ride to the dealer for the service light reset.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 05, 2013, 02:09:33 PM
Money and free beer in hand Stephan!!  (Just sayin)

 :) - my k1600 is really tired of the 100 mile boring ride to the dealer for the service light reset.

 ;D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on May 06, 2013, 06:50:47 PM
Money and free beer in hand Stephan!!  (Just sayin)

 :) - my k1600 is really tired of the 100 mile boring ride to the dealer for the service light reset.

At least your dealer will reset the service reminder. Talking to my service manager no reset without the service being done in the shop. Something about liability being assumed for work they didn't do. The service reminder will quickly annoy me when it lights up along with the general warning.

 This is just one reason I hope the new device comes out soon. Reading fault codes, reading dynamic  values, exercising the fan, and doing a proper ABS brake flush/bleeds are just a few reasons this tool is indispensable for correct DIY servicing.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Dmftoy1 on May 07, 2013, 12:46:56 AM
They happily charge me $50 per reset.   If my service mgr said something like that to me I'd be talking with the owner.  On a new bike they should do it as a courtesy IMHO.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: hjsgs911 on May 07, 2013, 02:01:34 PM
2) From the looks the new one will finally be IPad/Iphone compatible?
Or as I like to see it.. finally the iPad/iPhone will be GS-911 compatible...  8)
How will the new device connect to an iPad (bluetooth, lightning, ...)? How will you achieve the compatibility? From the video clip above it seems the software will run in a browser, i.e. independent from hardware that way.

Is there an expected shipping date for the new GS911?
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 07, 2013, 02:08:41 PM
How will the new device connect to an iPad (bluetooth, lightning, ...)? How will you achieve the compatibility? From the video clip above it seems the software will run in a browser, i.e. independent from hardware that way.
wifi and browser..

Is there an expected shipping date for the new GS911?
..when it's ready  :D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: tuscany5932 on May 12, 2013, 12:05:26 AM
It would be nice to modify Canbus settings such as activating alarm, fog lights, or ASC units if you install them yourself.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: ebbo on May 18, 2013, 07:34:58 AM
A new model with adapter for an extension cable. Other than that, smaller is always better but not at the sacrifice of strength
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 18, 2013, 09:06:45 AM
A new model with adapter for an extension cable. Other than that, smaller is always better but not at the sacrifice of strength
ebbo, what bike do you have?

We've been through several versions of extensions... some plain some new connectors and other developments... but none are perfect... always have a problem on the low seat position on some of the bikes like the RT etc...

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: naron on May 18, 2013, 11:08:39 AM
First thing first...thank got we finally have a proper forum  :)

1) So my current bluetooth GS911 which I have had for only 18months will be useless for the new Wethead?...hmmm
That is evolution... it happened to the cars a couple of years ago.. when the OEM changes the physical hardware interface... not much we can do about it.. except anticipate it, which we did, and why we started the development of the new interface 4 years ago...

you can read more on the generations here:
 http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911/support/faq/will-the-k1600-ever-be-supported

2) From the looks the new one will finally be IPad/Iphone compatible?
Or as I like to see it.. finally the iPad/iPhone will be GS-911 compatible...  8)

3) Suggestion....look at the possibility to give us some kind of a discount for current owners of GS911, when the new one comes out. Just to ease the pain a bit.

If point 3) will be implemented at a fair offer, then I will keep the old one for others with current/past bikes to help them out if required.
fair - it is such an open ended concept... Discounting an already very low cost product is not that easy when the margins are as small as they are... with the size of the market and the (already generous) market penetration the current Enthusiast GS-911 should be retailing for a lot more than it is... (which is why some people what to know why we are running this community project...)

People can buy a bash plate for $300-$400.. this bash plate is designed in less than a man-month... and then sent off for mass manufacturing... ...there are not 4 engineers, and a few other support staff that are working on the upgraded version on a daily basis... You've had your GS-911 for 18months.. every 3 months there is a new Beta version... that's a minimum of 6 updates... how many of those versions have you paid for?

Now back to the original question... of whether the initial price of $349 (or $299 for the USB-only version) was a fair price?  ;)

We have found an elegant solution (I think) to half of the problem.. in that the Professional interface is more expensive than the Enthusiast one... The thinking is clear... if you are making money using the tool, then you should be willing to contribute a little more to it's maintenance...

Hmmm - maybe we should implement that update fee that we were contemplating...  :P

best,
Stephan

Hello, I think the cost of product development is important but always as a function of the technical means that they have and the money that is invested in them.

Do not think it's a good idea to charge for updates (without diminishing the work) as the news that appear in most betas are not too relevant.

I think the product would be really much more attractive if we could be calibrated modules and install new or used such devices. abs modules, zfe units, alarms, sensors, fuel, etc.. this would be more acceptable  when paying for updates.

I encourage you to continue to develop the software, since in any case it is always better any development, you have to rely on the dealer.

Many greetings;

Enrique
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: cooter on May 18, 2013, 07:28:02 PM
Hi lads,thanks for doing a great job.Are you planning to add film sensor and ESA calibration?
Indeed we are... Kobus is currently working on advanced ZFE (Central Vehicle Electronics) functions and will soon have a Beta out.. however the Fuel strip calibration will not be part of this Beta... we're still trying to find a bike with a fuel strip... all our bikes have floats...

I have a film sensor in my 07K1200GT. Its currently dead. I'm toying with replacing it myself (if I could calibrate it) or having the dealer do it @ $500+. I guess I'm kind of far away to let you work with my bike. hmmm...
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Lupusz on May 19, 2013, 02:06:38 AM
I would wish me a physically stronger USB connection (USB A or B or USB 3.0B) for the new device for going on a test rides for data collection. I broke the MINI connector of the device already two times and I'm afraid I have to rebuy the device soon ...  :(

At least I would wish myself a mechanical strain relief, in order to not pull out the plug socket from the board when tension is applied.

The device was sold with a "professionell" version, so I would wish that cable connection would be more robust.



Cheers,
Lupusz
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 19, 2013, 10:10:39 AM
I would wish me a physically stronger USB connection (USB A or B or USB 3.0B) for the new device for going on a test rides for data collection. I broke the MINI connector of the device already two times and I'm afraid I have to rebuy the device soon ...  :(

At least I would wish myself a mechanical strain relief, in order to not pull out the plug socket from the board when tension is applied.

The device was sold with a "professionell" version, so I would wish that cable connection would be more robust.


Cheers,
Lupusz
hi Lupusz

the new one has the USB B type connector (like a printer)

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Lupusz on May 19, 2013, 07:26:25 PM
With a stronger connection the only small issue I found at the GS-911 would be fixed.

You are really doing a great job - I wish all my tools had this quality!!!


BR,
Lupusz
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 20, 2013, 09:33:51 AM
thanks Lupusz - that's always great to hear!

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: tkbaker4 on May 21, 2013, 09:49:47 PM
"Sounds like you've already covered the iOS problems with the wifi approach..."
Have I missed a break thru on the current model or is this in development on the new model?
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 21, 2013, 10:20:57 PM
this is the new one that's under development...
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: ebbo on May 29, 2013, 10:02:17 PM
A new model with adapter for an extension cable. Other than that, smaller is always better but not at the sacrifice of strength
ebbo, what bike do you have?

We've been through several versions of extensions... some plain some new connectors and other developments... but none are perfect... always have a problem on the low seat position on some of the bikes like the RT etc...

best,
Stephan
It is an RT Stephan, thanks
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on May 29, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
yip, the RT is a pain... but the new adapter/extension should be the solution... once we have the design locked down I'll get 2 or 3 sets printed and we can get some feedback from the RT guys... ;-)

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: ebbo on May 29, 2013, 10:54:38 PM
Cheers <thumbs up!>
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Dmftoy1 on June 21, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
Any updates on the new GS-911?   
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Alan T. Butler on June 22, 2013, 06:37:53 PM
I see from that video that the new GS-911 works with an iPad.  Does this mean that it will work with an iPhone also?  That would be really cool!!

Seeya
 ATB
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on June 22, 2013, 07:57:01 PM
I see from that video that the new GS-911 works with an iPad.  Does this mean that it will work with an iPhone also?  That would be really cool!!

Seeya
 ATB
But of course...   ;D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on June 26, 2013, 04:46:06 AM
Stephen,

Do you plan to start an e-mail list to notify us when the new GS 911 becomes available?  If so I want to sign up.

See you in Salem Or in a few weeks. I look forward to a preview if that is planned. Better yet a purchase if it is ready :)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on June 26, 2013, 09:27:51 AM
we won't be selling the new ones.. there's still quite a chunk of work to be done but it will be a good teaser... As you already know, we like to get feedback - that's how we improve what we have!

notifications will be posted on both this forum, the website as well as the general google-driven email forum, once it is available... but I suspect some beta testers will have their hands on this long before then...  ;)

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on June 26, 2013, 05:19:55 PM
Thanks Stephen, I look forward to seeing your demo.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Alan T. Butler on July 11, 2013, 01:01:15 AM
Think about how much you paid for your GS-911.  Then think about how much money you saved by not having to go to the dealer for service reminder re-setting, and any other diagnosis you've used it for. 

Seeya
 ATB
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: WarthogARJ on July 26, 2013, 12:16:03 PM
Good news Stephen.
I agree: I would buy a new GS-911 just if it worked with an iPhone.
I've had my money's worth.

But as I've been saying, I would REALLY like to be able to get it to allow me to run LED's instead of OEM bulbs.
On CANbus bikes.
For LED indicators, taillights and HiD headlights.
And soon I bet you will be able to get a after-market LED headlight for the older bikes: why not???

Alan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: v-man on July 27, 2013, 09:36:19 PM
This is GREAT news!!  I have had my K1600 for little over a year and have been looking forward to your new GS911.  My unit now has been invalueable for my GSA and I know the new one will be better!  Thanks for all the work from your entire team, it's appreciated.

Don
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on July 29, 2013, 11:04:56 PM
Hi Stephan,

Great seeing you at the MOA rally. Did you get my PM?

Regards,
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on July 30, 2013, 06:43:57 PM
LED bulbs is a coding setting if I remember correctly.. on the ZFE controllers that support it...  on bikes prior, I'll have to check.. they might need a Firmware update before they can support LED lights

..and when you say older bikes? are you meaning older K024 (the CAN-bus chassis type) or even older K1X (single F650 and R1150 and K1200 (non-CAN))? - these older K1X can't (as standard) as they flasher relay uses the current of the normal bulbs... here you need to fit resistors or specific solid-state relays...

BTW, anyone know where one can get these solidstate flasher relays? ..and cost?

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Inspector Gadget on July 30, 2013, 10:11:59 PM
For Solid State flashers I personally would like to recommend the Kisan Signal Minder;
https://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=4 (https://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=4)

I have used on many bikes, and like HexCode, they are very responsive to making improvements, resolving issues, giving advice & tips.

Back at the topic at hand;
As already mentioned, I would like the new GS-911 to be such that I can leave it connected to the R1200RT and ride the bike to get some realtime values. I have had issues with the sensors failing only during higher temperature of the engine and so on.
Or an adapter/extension-cable would be good too.  ;D

And, not sure if mentioned or the place to state it;
It would also be great to have some trade-up programme, if possible.
Get some money back for the ol' & trusted GS-911.  :-*
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on August 02, 2013, 09:50:33 AM
And, not sure if mentioned or the place to state it;
It would also be great to have some trade-up programme, if possible.
Get some money back for the ol' & trusted GS-911.  :-*
I did comment on this in another thread - but the short of it is that (although not set in stone), there probably will not be a trade-up or trade-in programme... Why not?  because this is such a low cost product, relative to it's cost, that if we were to squeeze and pinch, we might get a $50 rebate out of it... and quite frankly, I think you will get a lot more if you sell it second hand.. there you should easily get $100 or $150 to put towards your new device...

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Jughead on August 03, 2013, 10:50:56 PM
I would really like to be able to get my hands on an extension cable for the GS911.  I have trying for a few days to sort out an R1200RT with an intermittent problem.

Trying to capture realtime values is impossible due to the fact that the diagnostic socket is mounted solidly under the seat.  Plug the GS911 in and you can no longer replace the seat, so the bike cannot be ridden.

Monday morning I'm starting the day by dismantling the entire bracketry under the seat to see if I can accommodate the GS911 while I'm riding the bike.

Anyone with a couple of spare diag plugs lying around? ;)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on August 05, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
will send you one asap - should have it tomorrow morning...
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Jughead on August 05, 2013, 12:24:09 PM
Awesome!  Thanks Stephan.

Please include the invoice!
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Jughead on August 06, 2013, 09:41:31 AM
Say what you want, there is NO other company that provides the support and backup service like HEX!!!  You guyz rock!!!!

Check what arrived with me bright and early this morning!  I am UBER STOKED!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on August 06, 2013, 10:50:59 AM
Thanks!!!

Don't be too stoked... first check whether it works..  :) We have not made these commercially available as the don't solve all the problems... the RT seat (especially when in the low position) does not leave enough space even for this guy...

but looking forward to some feedback pls

best,
Stephan


Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Jughead on August 06, 2013, 10:56:46 AM
Thanks!!!

Don't be too stoked... first check whether it works..  :) We have not made these commercially available as the don't solve all the problems... the RT seat (especially when in the low position) does not leave enough space even for this guy...

but looking forward to some feedback pls

best,
Stephan

Will do!
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Inspector Gadget on August 08, 2013, 03:35:21 AM
As for the response to my trade-in/trade-up question;
Fully understood & accepted.
I will have a good think if I want to sell my Professional version by that time when the new GS-911 becomes available, as the new GS-911 model perhaps won't support the 3-pin type diagnostic connectors. And I still motor-buddies driving such bikes plentiful.

+1 for the Extension Cable, hope it comes into production, the RT's diagnostic connector is indeed awkwardly positioned.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Alan T. Butler on August 08, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Just taking into account the bux I saved by not having to take my motorcycles in to the dealer just to get rid of that dratted service reminder, my GS-911 has already paid for itself.  I want the new one that will work with my iPhone.  One question: what happens if you need to use it way out in the boonies, where there's no cell reception?

I really would like if there could be an explanation of the various fault codes, or perhaps a link to likely remedies for a situation. 

Thank you.
 ATB
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Haakon on August 09, 2013, 03:22:54 AM
The GS911 connect to the iPhone by a "local" bluetooth connection.
There is a list of fault codes on the Hexcode site
Download and save it on your phone- or print it out and keep on the bike
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: tlindsley on August 09, 2013, 03:36:19 PM
The GS911 connect to the iPhone by a "local" bluetooth connection.

The Hex folks probably have a better answer but the "new" GS911 will be using wifi so it should work on anything with a browser and wifi. It sets up it's own wifi network (like many other devices, such as GoPro Hero, Parrot AR Drone, Eye-Fi cards, etc) so cellular service coverage shouldn't be an issue.

Tom
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Haakon on August 10, 2013, 10:09:45 PM
 :-[ So sorry (I missed the "new" GS911) YES- not bluetooth.
Its "local" tho, so no need for a regular cellphone connection.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: fotodadi on August 20, 2013, 07:51:17 AM
There is a rumor of a new GS-911 on the horizon...  :D

Stephan

Stephan, any idea when this rumour will become fact? ;)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on August 27, 2013, 11:18:23 AM
this rumor is a fact as of today..  8)

...however, where the horizon is, I cannot say... Not because I don't want to, but because there are still several unknowns and a lot of work remains to be done... This forum will be the first to know..

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Jughead on August 27, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
this rumor is a fact as of today..  8)

...however, where the horizon is, I cannot say... Not because I don't want to, but because there are still several unknowns and a lot of work remains to be done... This forum will be the first to know..

best,
Stephan

Awesome news!!  ;D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: cjburr on August 28, 2013, 11:30:01 AM
this rumor is a fact as of today..  8)

...however, where the horizon is, I cannot say... Not because I don't want to, but because there are still several unknowns and a lot of work remains to be done... This forum will be the first to know..

best,
Stephan

forgive me for my ignorance but I've just spent the better part of an hour trying to determine where I can purchase a new GS-911 to use on my 09 K1300S, google did me no good and I cannot find any link here to purchase it either. If someone would be so kind as to provide a link to where I can make my purchase I would greatly appreciate it, I am in Afghanistan and my internet is extremely slow so doing searches is a PITA.

You guys might want to consider making the purchase of your product a little easier, such as a link/sticky at the top of this forum.

Finally found it here http://www.hardracing.com/GS911.htm, are these guys authorized dealers? I've seen the Chinese rip offs on Amazon and want to be sure I'm getting the new version that will work with my iPhone
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on August 28, 2013, 12:15:22 PM
Not sure what you were googling for....

seeing as this is the official GS-911 forum... and it is hosted on forum.hexcode.co.za, I would look at www.hexcode.co.za  ;)

there you will find a list of resellers - find the one closest to you...
 http://www.hexcode.co.za/resellers

when I google for GS-911...  here is what I get
 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=GS-911

the first 2 are us at HEXcode.co.za the next are the official USA distributor and the rest on that first page are all official

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: cjburr on August 28, 2013, 12:36:32 PM
thank you Stephan, I was googling "where to buy a GS-911" all I got were forums and a link to a Chinese rip off on Amazon......anyway thank you for getting me where I need to be  :-[
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: RegB on September 04, 2013, 02:57:22 AM
Correct, all the current models that have the 10pin connector as well the the new chassis type referred to as K001 by BMW (with currently are the K48 and K50)

We're working real hard on the new unit and you will see it in action at the MOA

As for an upgrade plan, we'll have to think about this some more... (and you're welcome to make suggestions) - however I cannot see a way to do this yet... (given the size of the market vs. the development cost + cost of the product).

best,
Stephan

Hi,
I'm "new" here and hope to be a "NEW" GS-911 owner soon.
That is to say I have ordered one, they are out of stock, supposedly will be here "soon".

So my basic question is "How "NEW" will my unit be ?"
i.e. NOS (New, Old Stock) or NNS (New, new stock)

BTW, I am paying full price, i.e. not a close out price on a soon to be obsolete product.
tnx.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 04, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
I think you are mixing topics here...

the "New" GS-911, is the GS-911wifi, and it is not available yet... as a matter of fact it has not even been released to any Beta testers yet... and no price has even been set on it... So I don't see that you have ordered one...

what you might have ordered was the current generation of GS-911blu or GS-911usb... These are not obsolete, and will for the foreseeable future run parallel to the GS-911wifi

where did you order (so I can address their stock issue)

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Washburn on September 04, 2013, 11:48:38 AM
The only regret i have is not getting one sooner. This thing is amazing.
One suggestion for the new one, and maybe its been suggested or invented, would be a screw on cap like the one on the plug on the bike. This way no dirt would enter while in the tank bag.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 04, 2013, 12:08:51 PM
The only regret i have is not getting one sooner. This thing is amazing.
One suggestion for the new one, and maybe its been suggested or invented, would be a screw on cap like the one on the plug on the bike. This way no dirt would enter while in the tank bag.
What if you could leave the NEW one plugged into the bike...?  Would that solve your problem?

 ;)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Washburn on September 04, 2013, 02:34:36 PM
Indeed it would.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on September 04, 2013, 05:26:04 PM
Leaving the GS 911 plugged in to the bike might create battery issues when parked for more than a couple days. As I recall the tool has the led on once it is plugged in.

I leave mine in the box it was sold in with the foam cutout. Dirt hasn't been an issue. If that isn't compact enough, perhaps a zip lock sandwich bag will do the trick.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 04, 2013, 05:27:35 PM
Leaving the GS 911 plugged in to the bike might create battery issues when parked for more than a couple days. As I recall the tool has the led on once it is plugged in.

I leave mine in the box it was sold in with the foam cutout. Dirt hasn't been an issue. If that isn't compact enough, perhaps a zip lock sandwich bag will do the trick.
remember... we're talking NEW GS-911 here... not the current generation... two completely different beasts... and the current generation was not designed to be left in the bike, permanently...

best,
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: gr8ridn on September 04, 2013, 06:08:03 PM
That is indeed an interesting capability making real-time monitoring much easier and accessible.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: RegB on September 04, 2013, 11:58:29 PM
I think you are mixing topics here...

the "New" GS-911, is the GS-911wifi, and it is not available yet... as a matter of fact it has not even been released to any Beta testers yet... and no price has even been set on it... So I don't see that you have ordered one...

what you might have ordered was the current generation of GS-911blu or GS-911usb... These are not obsolete, and will for the foreseeable future run parallel to the GS-911wifi

where did you order (so I can address their stock issue)

best,
Stephan

Quite possibly, but this "new" GS911 was supposedly "new" and/or imminent some time back in mid April.
It is now September... and counting...

From what I have read on this forum you release software updates (or new betas) about every 3 months,
so one could expect the "New" GS 911 to be about halfway through its second update by now.
I speculate that adding wifi capability should be a fairly trivial task, i.e. you already HAVE most of the design
done and de-bugged, this is just another I/O port.

Sorry, but this is starting to feel like Windoze 95, then 98, then 2000, then Vista, Win7, Win8.
Many iterations, marginal improvements at best, more typically feature encumbrances that load down what the original goals were... but at least they offered free ugrades to anyone who had paid recently.

Can you do something like that ? i.e. no or low cost "upgrade" to the wi-fi version for anyone having purchased new (old models) in the last n months ?
 
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Haakon on September 05, 2013, 12:40:18 AM
I am a GS911 owner, from way back.
I have no connection to Hexcode, except from being a happy user.
I do not understand why you nag, ask and say what you do?
The "New" GS911 will be for sale when its fully developed and tested, this year or next.
As I understand it both the new (when ready) and old will be "alive" (regularly updated) and for sale.
Many BMW owners will not want or need the more expensive "New" editon.

Haakon
 
Correct, all the current models that have the 10pin connector as well the the new chassis type referred to as K001 by BMW (with currently are the K48 and K50)

We're working real hard on the new unit and you will see it in action at the MOA

As for an upgrade plan, we'll have to think about this some more... (and you're welcome to make suggestions) - however I cannot see a way to do this yet... (given the size of the market vs. the development cost + cost of the product).

best,
Stephan

Hi,
I'm "new" here and hope to be a "NEW" GS-911 owner soon.
That is to say I have ordered one, they are out of stock, supposedly will be here "soon".

So my basic question is "How "NEW" will my unit be ?"
i.e. NOS (New, Old Stock) or NNS (New, new stock)

BTW, I am paying full price, i.e. not a close out price on a soon to be obsolete product.
tnx.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 05, 2013, 12:41:03 AM
Quite possibly, but this "new" GS911 was supposedly "new" and/or imminent some time back in mid April.
It is now September... and counting...
We have been working on this ALL NEW GS-911 for almost 5 years now... and I don't recall fixing a released date.. let alone April... of 20xx...

From what I have read on this forum you release software updates (or new betas) about every 3 months,
so one could expect the "New" GS 911 to be about halfway through its second update by now.
I speculate that adding wifi capability should be a fairly trivial task, i.e. you already HAVE most of the design
done and de-bugged, this is just another I/O port.
No - it has not been released yet... so it is not behind any schedule of any update... and the current GS-911blu and GS-911usb have had their regular (less than) 3 monthly updates...

Sorry, but this is starting to feel like Windoze 95, then 98, then 2000, then Vista, Win7, Win8.
Many iterations, marginal improvements at best, more typically feature encumbrances that load down what the original goals were... but at least they offered free ugrades to anyone who had paid recently.
whahahahaha  ::)

BTW, what is the serial# of your GS-911?

Can you do something like that ? i.e. no or low cost "upgrade" to the wi-fi version for anyone having purchased new (old models) in the last n months ?

the current GS-911 is NOT being discontinued... and it will  have a LOT more functionality on the K1x and K24 bikes...

then new GS-911 will initially be there to cater for the new chassis of the K001, like the K48 and K50, that CANNOT work with the current GS-911


Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Xchallenge on September 05, 2013, 11:32:52 AM
...the current GS-911 is NOT being discontinued... and it will  have a LOT more functionality on the K1x and K24 bikes...
Since you're referring to project names, could you please provide a link to where we can translate those to actual bike model numbers? I searched your site and googled around the net but couldn't find anything, except for K46 being the S1000RR.

Despite being misunderstood by some, I appreciate that you started this thread to give us a sneak peak into the future. Please do take whatever time you find necessary to create the new product with the same high standards as the "old" GS-911, that I like so much.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: RegB on September 05, 2013, 03:25:57 PM
Quite possibly, but this "new" GS911 was supposedly "new" and/or imminent some time back in mid April.
It is now September... and counting...
We have been working on this ALL NEW GS-911 for almost 5 years now... and I don't recall fixing a released date.. let alone April... of 20xx...

From what I have read on this forum you release software updates (or new betas) about every 3 months,
so one could expect the "New" GS 911 to be about halfway through its second update by now.
I speculate that adding wifi capability should be a fairly trivial task, i.e. you already HAVE most of the design
done and de-bugged, this is just another I/O port.
No - it has not been released yet... so it is not behind any schedule of any update... and the current GS-911blu and GS-911usb have had their regular (less than) 3 monthly updates...

Sorry, but this is starting to feel like Windoze 95, then 98, then 2000, then Vista, Win7, Win8.
Many iterations, marginal improvements at best, more typically feature encumbrances that load down what the original goals were... but at least they offered free ugrades to anyone who had paid recently.
whahahahaha  ::)

BTW, what is the serial# of your GS-911?

Can you do something like that ? i.e. no or low cost "upgrade" to the wi-fi version for anyone having purchased new (old models) in the last n months ?

the current GS-911 is NOT being discontinued... and it will  have a LOT more functionality on the K1x and K24 bikes...

then new GS-911 will initially be there to cater for the new chassis of the K001, like the K48 and K50, that CANNOT work with the current GS-911

OK, taking all that as given - and I am really NOT here as a troll, so I won't argue every point (-:

There is still a problem for those of us who are about to get into the generation of bikes that you don't (yet) support.
Buying a current GS-911 for our current bikes that we are about to trade feels like a bad idea.
$300 or $350 for low/no use in the next few months is hard to justify - - on anything but breakdown paranoia (-:

To some extent the problem is with us (the bike owners) we are "between bike generations", but if you want to capture and keep us it would seem to be a smart biz move to smooth our transition, both technically and financially.

Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 05, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
There is still a problem for those of us who are about to get into the generation of bikes that you don't (yet) support.
Buying a current GS-911 for our current bikes that we are about to trade feels like a bad idea.
$300 or $350 for low/no use in the next few months is hard to justify - - on anything but breakdown paranoia (-:
easy... if you plan to do maintenance or other work, buy it... 5 years ago I had a lube service done on a F650GS (Single) in California at my local BMW dealership... cost me $381 ...now if you bought a GS-911 and did one lube service,.. you've already won... no brainer...

remember... no one is forcing you to buy a GS-911...

I always find this ironic... people will buy an aluminium bash plate for $400, it took probably less than 100 man-hours to develop and get into production... and on most bikes it's probably only there for breakdown paranoia... Then there is GS-911, that (I'm guestimating) has over 30,000 man-hours to date ...and you don't want to pay less than that bashplate...  :o

and what happens to the bashplate when you sell your bike?

Hang on... you could have used your GS-911 on 10 bikes... could you have used that bash plate on 10 bikes? and you can sell that GS-911 for (I'm guessing again) at least half it's purchase price.. remember the guys that have the K1x and K24 chassis bikes, are not going to go away over night...  ;) or you could sweeten the deal on your current bike... So many options...


To some extent the problem is with us (the bike owners) we are "between bike generations", but if you want to capture and keep us it would seem to be a smart biz move to smooth our transition, both technically and financially.
Generally we don't have to convince people... the product is so good, it does that for us...

so what do you have in mind?


Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: RegB on September 05, 2013, 09:56:20 PM
There is still a problem for those of us who are about to get into the generation of bikes that you don't (yet) support.
Buying a current GS-911 for our current bikes that we are about to trade feels like a bad idea.
$300 or $350 for low/no use in the next few months is hard to justify - - on anything but breakdown paranoia (-:
easy... if you plan to do maintenance or other work, buy it... 5 years ago I had a lube service done on a F650GS (Single) in California at my local BMW dealership... cost me $381 ...now if you bought a GS-911 and did one lube service,.. you've already won... no brainer...

remember... no one is forcing you to buy a GS-911...

I always find this ironic... people will buy an aluminium bash plate for $400, it took probably less than 100 man-hours to develop and get into production... and on most bikes it's probably only there for breakdown paranoia... Then there is GS-911, that (I'm guestimating) has over 30,000 man-hours to date ...and you don't want to pay less than that bashplate...  :o

and what happens to the bashplate when you sell your bike?

Hang on... you could have used your GS-911 on 10 bikes... could you have used that bash plate on 10 bikes? and you can sell that GS-911 for (I'm guessing again) at least half it's purchase price.. remember the guys that have the K1x and K24 chassis bikes, are not going to go away over night...  ;) or you could sweeten the deal on your current bike... So many options...


To some extent the problem is with us (the bike owners) we are "between bike generations", but if you want to capture and keep us it would seem to be a smart biz move to smooth our transition, both technically and financially.
Generally we don't have to convince people... the product is so good, it does that for us...

so what do you have in mind?

Well,,,,, Yeah OK right now I am not trying to decide between a bash plate and a diagnostic tool.
If I was still in the dirt and believed the bash plate could save me a cracked crank case within a week vs a diagnostic tool that MIGHT confirm my diagnosis of water in fuel (having dunked in a stream bed moments earlier) the bash plate would probably win out. 
Development and manufacturing costs are largely irrelevant to customers.  Awwww, lets not go into all that barriers to entry stuff ?

No, I am not "doing service" for others and I can't see how the GS911 would pay for itself on "lube service", which I take to mean drain oil, refill, hit a dozen grease zerks, done.  Oh, wipe with oily rag to show evidence of work having been done - the "service mark".

I agree, no force is being applied, it is a take it or leave it situation - I am just trying to evaluate the "need" to part with a few hundred bux on the CURRENT GS911 for the CURRENT bike vs wait until ??/??/yyyy  and buy the WIFI one for $nnn.nn (I assume less than $1,000) which will work on my next bike.
I imagine others have same/similar dilemma. 
 
To your suggestion that I could sell a current GS911 for half what I paid for it.
A depreciation of around 50% in a few months... lets see, I would have to check, but I don't think even Harleys depreciate THAT fast (-:

What I have in mind right now is a prayer that my current bike will make it to trade in time without a need for a scan.
My new bike will probably go back to the dealer for its first service, which will probably include a full scan and maybe ROM update.
Hopefully you will have a formal announcement and availability date for the WIFI model by then, if not.... well, buying a (now) current GS911 won't help me so I will be dealer dependent - unless another scanner company decides to launch a unit, say Actron ?
I have a car/truck one of theirs that I like a lot, it does ABS stuff too and is not vehicle manufacturer specific - works on any OBD-II compliant vehicle.

My Chrystal ball says a phone app for BMWs from someone else is VERY likely - - and very soon, probably low cost too.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 05, 2013, 10:42:44 PM
Reg, what bike do you ride, and which bike are you considering?
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 05, 2013, 11:02:00 PM
Let's just put this discussion into perspective...

Let's assume you are looking into a a new R1200GS LC... then looking at the USA Motorrad site, and I quote: "2013 MSRP starting at $15,800"... now assuming you only manage to sell you GS-911 for 50% ..that means you've used $149...

That's not even 1%...  I have nothing more to say about this topic... so let's end this conversation right here! 

And to show you that we actually DO have a sense of humour, :

We have officially suspended the New GS-911 !
 
 ;D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPv7l6rZ-7k[/youtube]
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 06, 2013, 11:25:42 AM
Note to forum: RegB has way too much negative energy... This is not a bitching thread...

I've removed his last post.

Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Dmftoy1 on September 08, 2013, 12:59:42 AM
Oh com'on, I'm about 2k from needing a service light reset, unsuspend it and ill buy the whiner one so he can unbunch his panties.  :)

I'm paying $56 per oil change to reset that stupid light. (4* 56 = 224 . . . No brainier to me)

Stephan, check will be in the mail tomorrow. . . . Just say the word!!
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Inspector Gadget on September 08, 2013, 03:21:35 AM
You can please some of the bikers all of the time, you can please all of the bikers some of the time, but you can’t please all of the bikers all of the time.

Development, especially the combination of hardware & software, takes a lot of time, trial and error, grief and pain.
I know, as in a previously life I worked for many manufacturers, repaired hardware and did the odd coding too.

What I find top notch with HexCode, is the fact the product is off excellent quality, the customer-support is second to none, and they take the time to respond.
Even to my silly questions! ;D

I have other brands diagnostic tools, including ones for BMW-only from some mainstream manufacturers, and they basically told me to bin their older products, no updates, conflicting support-responses and so on. Major let-down's in my book.

Instead of b.tching and moaning about when a new product becomes available, it is in my view far more constructive to provide feedback and use the existing products, so HexCode understands our likes and dislikes, our wishes and demands, so they can encompass that possibly in future products and/or software-updates.

Because ultimately, it is us, the existing and future customers/users who build in essence the products, by providing the aforementioned (constructive) feedback.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Jughead on September 09, 2013, 07:54:29 AM
Sorry, but this is starting to feel like Windoze 95, then 98, then 2000, then Vista, Win7, Win8.
Many iterations, marginal improvements at best, more typically feature encumbrances that load down what the original goals were... but at least they offered free ugrades to anyone who had paid recently.

Fortunately for us, Hex does NOT operate like Microsoft that make everything dependent on the new Beta version, thus forcing you to buy the Beta version (even though it's not labeled as "Beta"), and then use that money to fund the next "Non-Beta" Beta version!!  ;D ;D

I don't really understand what the gripe is here.  As Stephan has stated, nobody is forcing you the buy a GS911.  If you don't want or need one, move on. 

Or is this type of comment sent to all manufacturers of products you personally don't really use or want?

So smite me, but if that is the case, get a life!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: fotodadi on September 15, 2013, 09:09:28 AM
Oh com'on, I'm about 2k from needing a service light reset, unsuspend it and ill buy the whiner one so he can unbunch his panties.  :)

I can chip in so the "whiner" gets 2 units!

But please please please un-suspend it!!!

BTW Stephan and the Hexcode crew....you guys are top notch and doing a great job!

Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on September 15, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
ha ha ha, thanks guys!  I guess I should pull that video at some point ?  It took 1 day to get a post on the youtube page which said: "I don't get it. Development suspended and a happy face."

..not to mention the amount of PMs and emails I received... But at least now we know, that there are some people that are paying attention  ;D


maybe we should do what the Raspberry Pi guys did... and auction off the first 10 units... serial#'s 000 001 to 000 010...  ;D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: NeelsK on October 01, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Psaaaahhhh too much nagging nagging.  I feel as if I somehow got married with out my knowledge just reading this forum ;)  I am a very satisfied owner of a blu Prof version.  In Qatar we serviced our own bikes so it was invaluable in our little riding circle.  Since moving back to SA I've bought the new LC so my 911 is just gathering dust.  Given that the bike only has 11k on the clock I haven't REALLY needed it (except for the 10k service where the dealer forgot to reset service indicator), but it is nice to have the functionality available hehe.  So Stephan, sign me up for the new one! No rush. Tomorrow will be fine  ;D  In the mean time, if anyone has a need for a 911 blu Prof version, drop me a line.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Haakon on October 04, 2013, 09:26:28 PM
In the future:
 
1: Do you plan on selling the "old" GS911 some years after the new is for sale?
    (not everyone will need the added functions and web based interface- not all will want to pay the higher price?)
2: If you do plan on selling both units I hope both will have regular updates - free or not :-)
    (the "old" for at least some years into the future)
3: I see a possible problem when owners of the "old" upgrade and want to sell the old on the web.
    That will open up the market for counterfeit units  :-(
    Is it possible to make a register where a possible buyer can check if the unit they want to buy is a original one?
    I do see lots of problems with that, legal, personal protection and so on.

Ok, I admit it was a silly question and suggestion  ;)
Guess the only safe solution for buyers are to buy locally- so the seller can prove the updates work and the GS911 is a proper one.     
   
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: ksing on October 11, 2013, 11:31:16 PM
One recommendation for pricing is to have a sliding scale from how long the older gs911 was bought.
I just bought one and it would really hurt if a new one was launched today :'(
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Haakon on October 12, 2013, 12:01:00 AM
It will not hurt much if your new ("old" GS911) do the same as the "new" does, on your bike?
The only difference will then be if it is "web" based or not- right?
I think the "old" GS911 will be updated with new software for years..
Bottom line is- Would you pay (guessing) 2 times the price to have a web based unit instead?
IF the one you have now do exactly the same as the new one?
Haakon

PS: Yes, a "sliding scale" pricing for "new" GS911 buyers that want the new one instead is worth asking.
I do see lots of problems but...
IF you need and want the new edition I am sure you can easily sell it at a fair price, privately or online.
Haakon
     

One recommendation for pricing is to have a sliding scale from how long the older gs911 was bought.
I just bought one and it would really hurt if a new one was launched today :'(
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Dmftoy1 on October 17, 2013, 12:49:29 AM
Stephen, another service light reset in < 100 miles. . . .your call, send you the money or give it to the dealer. . . Just sayin.  :)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: fotodadi on October 25, 2013, 01:31:24 PM
Stephen, another service light reset in < 100 miles. . . .your call, send you the money or give it to the dealer. . . Just sayin.  :)

+1  ;) ;) ;)

Hint!!! Hint!!!
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: marchyman on October 26, 2013, 07:48:44 AM
Stephen, another service light reset in < 100 miles. . . .your call, send you the money or give it to the dealer. . . Just sayin.  :)

Heh... I've another 1500 miles before I'll need to make that decision for my wethead... call it a month and a half.  Sure would be a nice Christmas gift.  :)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: fotodadi on October 28, 2013, 08:55:49 PM
Stephen, another service light reset in < 100 miles. . . .your call, send you the money or give it to the dealer. . . Just sayin.  :)

+1  ;) ;) ;)

Hint!!! Hint!!!

+10000

 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on November 15, 2013, 08:39:13 AM
Stephen, another service light reset in < 100 miles. . . .your call, send you the money or give it to the dealer. . . Just sayin.  :)
hehehe... what bike - I take it a new generation (or K48 or K50) ?

PM me  8)

best
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on November 15, 2013, 08:41:27 AM
So who of you with the new K50 and K48 are part of the Beta testing group?  ;)

best
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: marchyman on November 15, 2013, 08:53:07 AM
Where's that little guy waving his hand in the air smiley.    ;)

I'm really looking forward to reading any codes that my K50 may have thrown during one or two anomalous operations.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on November 15, 2013, 08:53:33 AM
In the future:
 
1: Do you plan on selling the "old" GS911 some years after the new is for sale?
    (not everyone will need the added functions and web based interface- not all will want to pay the higher price?)
It will definitely be available for a while... remember the new GS-911wifi starts filling the gaps on the new generation of bikes (K48, K50, K51, K52, K53 etc)... while the current GS-911blu and GS-911usb have great functionality for the existing model ranges...

2: If you do plan on selling both units I hope both will have regular updates - free or not :-)
    (the "old" for at least some years into the future)
We've been releasing updates on a 3monthly basis since 2007... as functionality is added, so releases are made... on the free or not, there is just been an interesting thread opened on the forum that you might want to look at:
  http://forum.hexcode.co.za/forum/index.php/topic,181.0.html

3: I see a possible problem when owners of the "old" upgrade and want to sell the old on the web.
    That will open up the market for counterfeit units  :-(
    Is it possible to make a register where a possible buyer can check if the unit they want to buy is a original one?
    I do see lots of problems with that, legal, personal protection and so on.
an interesting thought... however, just make sure the user is using the latest beta version and then have a look at the registration data - if the interface is NOT registered to that specific person (and his email address), then DON'T buy it...

Ok, I admit it was a silly question and suggestion  ;)
Guess the only safe solution for buyers are to buy locally- so the seller can prove the updates work and the GS911 is a proper one.
correct - for now, just ask the owner where he purchased it - also there is a link to the local distributor in the help->About  - they can always look up in their records, or they can just contact us... but, if you do buy a cloned GS-911, insist on your money back... and if they don't, go to the police and make a case against them... (we will gladly assist with our expert knowledge  :) )

best
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on November 15, 2013, 08:54:52 AM
Where's that little guy waving his hand in the air smiley.    ;)
There should be a post in the Beta section shortly   8)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: 2wheeler on November 16, 2013, 01:47:45 AM
What about blocking the new GS-911 so that it can only read from the CAN-bus. Then it can not do any harm - and then let us buy it here and now - and then update it with functions for writing to the CAN-bus when this is safe?  Then we will be able to test our new R1200 and K1600.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on November 16, 2013, 08:02:51 AM
What about blocking the new GS-911 so that it can only read from the CAN-bus. Then it can not do any harm - and then let us buy it here and now - and then update it with functions for writing to the CAN-bus when this is safe?  Then we will be able to test our new R1200 and K1600.
that's not how it works...
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: fotodadi on November 16, 2013, 09:24:47 PM
What about blocking the new GS-911 so that it can only read from the CAN-bus. Then it can not do any harm - and then let us buy it here and now - and then update it with functions for writing to the CAN-bus when this is safe?  Then we will be able to test our new R1200 and K1600.
that's not how it works...

 ;D :D

If you let us have it, we would know!!! ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Dmftoy1 on November 17, 2013, 01:21:05 PM

What about blocking the new GS-911 so that it can only read from the CAN-bus. Then it can not do any harm - and then let us buy it here and now - and then update it with functions for writing to the CAN-bus when this is safe?  Then we will be able to test our new R1200 and K1600.
that's not how it works...

 ;D :D

If you let us have it, we would know!!! ;) ;) ;)

Been watching the beta section and haven't seen any damn notes either. ..  Just sayin.   ;)

Do I need to post a pic of some cash to motivate you?  (Will happy pay software maint fee after 1 year. . . .. I'm in the industry and completely get it.  (56% of my company revenue is MFR)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Brick on November 28, 2013, 11:38:48 AM
Is there any chance that the new GS911 will be able to enable additional equipment for the K16's? If like to install equipment like the BMW GPS and ground effect lights, all options that need to be enabled on the computer to work.

My local dealer recently billed 4 times longer to install the new Navigator V to a GTL than I'd been quoted at interstate dealers. As always they blame the computer enabling.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: 2wheeler on November 29, 2013, 03:34:03 PM
Please do not make requests for special features - they can delay the release of a new GS-911.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Haakon on November 29, 2013, 10:14:18 PM
 :-* I do not think questions or requsts like that will delay the launch of the new  ;)
It is added to the list.... and is a help for the development team.
Its hard for them to know what users want the most, without inputs and questions.
Haakon
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Brick on December 01, 2013, 01:23:32 AM
Trust me, I want the new GS911 as much or more than most. Without it, My next closest support is a 5000km round trip. As my local dealer won't allow me to return to his workshop after essentially proving to BMW he was an idiot. Without the new GS911, I'll be forced to sell my K16GT for lack of support. I want this unit, but also want it to do what I need it to do. I'm sure others are thinking the same.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on December 02, 2013, 02:07:13 PM
Is there any chance that the new GS911 will be able to enable additional equipment for the K16's? If like to install equipment like the BMW GPS and ground effect lights, all options that need to be enabled on the computer to work.

My local dealer recently billed 4 times longer to install the new Navigator V to a GTL than I'd been quoted at interstate dealers. As always they blame the computer enabling.
no clear answer... this depends on the type of activation... I hear most (ok, many) are digitally signed with a RSA private key... which makes it pretty much impossible...

Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on December 02, 2013, 02:35:28 PM
BTW, having our K1600GT updated to the Green-N-update today... will start a new thread once I have it back....  ;)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on December 03, 2013, 11:55:49 PM
A sneak peek...
 http://forum.hexcode.co.za/forum/index.php/topic,538.0.html (http://forum.hexcode.co.za/forum/index.php/topic,538.0.html)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Liv2Ride on December 12, 2013, 09:01:25 AM
Hey Stephan, great info here.

I am not currently a GS-911 owner but I am very interested in obtaining one.  Looking at the demo video of the wifi version, that is what I decided to hold out for...I think.

Looking at this page: http://www.hexcode.co.za/gs-911wifi-setup I suspect you are getting extremely close to release, no pressure okay?

Will this device allow ALL functionality with any device connected to the gs-911 via wifi?  More specifically will I be able to accomplish all functions from my Iphone or Ipad and not just read codes?

Thanks in advance.

Scot
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on December 12, 2013, 05:46:55 PM
Looking at this page: http://www.hexcode.co.za/gs-911wifi-setup I suspect you are getting extremely close to release, no pressure okay?
Sneaky of you to spot that...  :D ...yes we are testing...

Will this device allow ALL functionality with any device connected to the gs-911 via wifi?  More specifically will I be able to accomplish all functions from my Iphone or Ipad and not just read codes?
that is ALL relative...
for the initial release the GS-911wifi as it is officially called, will connect with the Windows PC app and have ALL the functionality, over USB or wifi.
in addition to that it will have basic functionality for the K48 (K1600) and K50 (R1200GS LC) over wifi (i.e. any device that has a browser, including iOS devices)

following that we will implement

Following that we will catch up with the service functionality of the older bikes (everything that is NOT K48 and K50)... BUT this is a LOT of work... and will take a while...
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Haakon on December 13, 2013, 07:26:05 AM
Just to make sure:
Will the "GS-911 wifi" also have a USB and /or LAN connection?
There will be the same functuality for a wired connection as the WiFi?
(Stupid question as the WEB interface is the same :-)

I do understand that the old bikes will not have full "functionality" at first.
(The majority of customers will want to use it on "new" bikes, so thethe old bikes is not first priority)
With "old" I think of pre CanBus. The old GS911 is as developed as possible I guess.
I hope it will be for sale as a small brother of new GS-911 WiFi?

Maybe this will start a new line of discussions, but I have to ask:
I pray the WiFi edition will have more or less the same user limitations as the old? (enthusiast/ professional)
Haakon
 
 
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Brick on December 14, 2013, 04:26:46 AM
The important question is "how much do I need to beg to get on the Beta test?" I've listed my K1600 on a national motorcycle website to sell it. I'm at a point with my local dealer where it either sells first and I buy V twin. Or the new GS911 becomes available and I keep my GT.
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: T on December 27, 2013, 08:26:53 PM
I am willing and able to beta test. I have a 2010 K1300S, an iphone 5, an iPad 4 and a GS-911.

Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: fotodadi on January 09, 2014, 06:40:34 PM

Yeah!!!

I see your DP.

Question is when can I get it for me??? :( ;)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: natrab on February 22, 2014, 10:59:21 AM
Hello!  Just joined as I'm also interested in when the new version is coming out.  I haven't owned a GS-911 yet, but just got a new '13 RT and I'm sure the water cooled bikes are in my future.  Anxiously waiting with money in hand :D
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Tel on June 02, 2014, 05:39:34 AM
Hi Gents
Any news to share?
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Alan T. Butler on June 29, 2014, 03:16:07 AM
Stephan: Where is the line?  Can I put my name on a list?  I want to be a plank owner!  I have gotten so much excellent use from my current Bluetooth Pro model GS-911.  I want to get the one that will work with the later model BMW bikes.  Also with my iPhone.  I heard that it even has a Holo-deck feature! 

Please put me on the notification list for when the new machine becomes available!

Thank you
 ATB
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Inspector Gadget on June 29, 2014, 04:01:54 AM
And the diagnostic-port extension cable would also be very high on my Bucket-, sorry, wish-list.  :-*

With the BMW Comfort saddle, mounting the GS911 was a challenge, but now with my Corbin saddle and the PDM60 (from Rowe Electronics) it has become even a bigger challenge.

I already dropped my Corbin Smuggler once.  :o
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: SikMoto on July 02, 2014, 08:47:31 PM
Just jumping in line for notifications here - I just bought a K16GT, my buddy bought a new GSW, and I own a shop that services many BMWs since our closest dealer is over 200 miles away.  I own a Pro GS911 and would love to pick up the new version.  Hope to hear soon! 

Matt
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Armourer on July 24, 2014, 03:03:33 PM
Hi all. The new gs911 id finally ready .. Hurray!!!
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: StephanT on July 30, 2014, 04:13:44 PM
yes, it has been releases this weekend at the MOA in St. Paul, MN.

Currently available through our US distributor - well, on back order... I think there were 10 left from the MOA and those went/will go to the first pre-orders... More stock to arrive in August!

best
Stephan
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: fotodadi on September 02, 2014, 05:56:47 PM
Just got mine!!! ;D ;D ;D

But seems I cant change mileage units yet....oh well....we will see. ::)
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: hafizzy@gmail.com on November 28, 2014, 05:25:48 PM
Hi all,
We're 1 of the BMW used bike dealer in Malaysia and having this new GS-911 W. We need to get the date for software patch for updating the mileage unit for GS LC. Please keep us update. Thanks in advance
Title: Re: New GS-911
Post by: Inspector Gadget on May 29, 2015, 06:03:29 PM
And the diagnostic-port extension cable would also be very high on my Bucket-, sorry, wish-list.  :-*

My Bucket-list is complete, HexCode released the 50cm & 1 meter diagnostics-cable extension, I purchased & received them both.  8)
Nice, very nice indeed!

Thank you HexCode!