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Title: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 19, 2017, 05:57:21 PM
hi, pls help removed the tire pressure sensor from tire but can not see the id.
both from front and rear bmw part numbers are same 8532731.
can gs 911 wifi detect the id automatically.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Mornay on July 20, 2017, 08:24:39 AM
The GS-911wifi can detect TPMS. Ideally you need a wakeup tool, but its possible to wake the sensors. The full procedure is documented here:

http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911/procedures/rdc
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 20, 2017, 09:43:11 AM
Hi,
software used is gs911 beta 1210.1 as per your post.
pls update the procedure to new software am using the latest version 1707.2.
pls it is a request.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Mornay on July 20, 2017, 01:07:48 PM
While the data on the screenshots is still relevant, we will update the procedure on the website to the latest version. Did you manage to get the TPMS id's from your wheels?
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 20, 2017, 01:58:59 PM
Hi,
there are no id on the sensor
on the side there 16 number bar code and on the valve side there is nothing.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Mornay on July 20, 2017, 02:04:43 PM
If you do not have access to any wakeup tools, you can use the ALERT method as a last resort, also detailed on the RDC procedure page (Option 3). This should wake the sensor up and the GS-911wifi should then be able to read the sensor ID's.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 20, 2017, 02:19:11 PM
Boss
am going to try this once i reach home and let u know as soon as i get the results boss.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 21, 2017, 03:49:23 AM
Hi,
did not work out tried 3 times.
1. i tried removing air from 1 tire at a time did not work and also went on a short ride again.
dash lights did not come up but still    --    -- sign is there.
2. removed air from both the tire at same time went on short ride.
dash lights have not come up but still -- -- is there.
3. without removing air from tires tried to relearn the sensors it took more then 10 minutes but no error sign nor message.
drove the bike for more 10 kilometers at a speed between 30 km and 35 km with no stop.
still on dash no lights have come up and the sign is -- --.
pls assit used the 3 pro...

As the sensors are still active for a while before going to sleep, your first thought would be to take the bike for a short ride, thus waking the sensors and allowing you to learn a sensor.. This however is NOT THE RIGHT WAY!!  This will wake both sensors and when you instruct your RDC unit to learn a specific position, e.g. front wheel, Set A, the control unit will be receiving signals from both active TPM sensors and might not learn the right one, or any for that matter...

THE CORRECT ALTERNATIVE, also known as the "ALERT method" is to let the air out of the wheel rapidly (we simply depress the valve for around 10 seconds)... this rapid fall in pressure wakes the sensor and places it in an Alert mode, where it starts sending its data (which obviously includes its Sensor ID!).

Thus, to summarize, if you do not have a RDC wake-up tool, either enter the new Sensor ID manually in the Advance section (this of course assumes you noted the Sensor ID before refitting the wheel ;-) ), or when the GS-911 application asks you to use the wake-up tool, simply depress the valve of the tire that you want to wake for around 10 seconds, which will in turn wake the sensor in an Alert mode where it then sends its Sensor ID and pressure information....
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 21, 2017, 06:36:41 PM
started learning for 35 minutes it was still learning only.
using phone it says sensor battery ok
using pc it says sensor battery not ok
which is correct don't know yet
bike is r1200gs lc 2016
INTERNET is connected but phone can not connect to cloud it say no INTERNET connection.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 23, 2017, 05:59:06 AM
Hi Boss
this is the error message in picture.
481f8a
481f8b is it the tire sensor id's i was looking for.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Mornay on July 24, 2017, 03:23:25 PM
I suggest you send an email to our Support department for further assistance with your matter, they will gladly assist you:

support@hexcode.co.za
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Jughead on July 24, 2017, 06:18:24 PM
Hi Boss
this is the error message in picture.
481f8a
481f8b is it the tire sensor id's i was looking for.

Your attachment is a little too small to read anything significant.  Post a larger image and I may be able to assist.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 25, 2017, 05:42:10 AM
Hi Boss,
is this the id of senser
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Jughead on July 25, 2017, 07:58:36 AM
No.

What you can try is the following:

Open the wifi utility, select your bike and go to Tyre Pressure TPM
Select "Service functions"
Select "XRDC Fuctions"
Select "Input Sensor ID"
The system will then read the current programmed IDs and the display them as in the screenshot below.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 25, 2017, 08:13:12 AM
Hi Boss Jughead,
have to do from pc or phone.
if phone it tell me your are not connected to wifi but the phone shows connected
pls assist me more on this
Thx
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Jughead on July 25, 2017, 08:16:45 AM
If you do not have access to any wakeup tools, you can use the ALERT method as a last resort, also detailed on the RDC procedure page (Option 3). This should wake the sensor up and the GS-911wifi should then be able to read the sensor ID's.

Mornay

I think his issue here is not being able to pick up the current sensor id as programmed.

The screenshot in the link (http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911/procedures/rdc (http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911/procedures/rdc)) has the button for "Learn front sensor, wheel set A", alongside which the Current ID is displayed.

As per my previous post, I played around a little and managed to find where the current ID is displayed.

Maybe somewhere in the future the "Display Current ID" feature can be added?
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Jughead on July 25, 2017, 08:24:33 AM
Hi Boss Jughead,
have to do from pc or phone.
if phone it tell me your are not connected to wifi but the phone shows connected
pls assist me more on this
Thx

The screenshot in the previous post was from the PC.  Here is one from the phone, a Samsung S8.

You must enable your mobile data while connected to WiFi.  Many phone are set to disable mobile data while connected to WiFi.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 25, 2017, 08:27:47 AM
Hi,
this id shows but when u try to relearn they it takes more then 35 minutes still learning.
AM USING V1702.2 ON PC.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Jughead on July 25, 2017, 09:20:12 AM
Why are you trying to relearn the ID?  The correct ID is already set up.

It is possible that the sensor batteries have died.

A question. Have you added a mousse or puncture prevention solution into the tyre?
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 25, 2017, 09:40:06 AM
Hi,
no it is new bike model 2016. mistake done was by me when traveling i removed the battery from bike for nearly 2 months and this problem came up.
the dash is reading "  -- --  "
and error message when it comes up is as follow.
this fault is on both tyres front and rear.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Jughead on July 25, 2017, 11:05:16 AM
Does the fault reoccur if you clear the fault code and then take the bike for a ride?
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on July 25, 2017, 02:08:25 PM
yes boss it does occur if you drive more then 15 km ride.
i get exclamation mark with tire mark both blinking with arrow up and down
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Jughead on July 25, 2017, 02:47:45 PM
yes boss it does occur if you drive more then 15 km ride.
i get exclamation mark with tire mark both blinking with arrow up and down

I would suggest you get the bike to someone with the correct wake-up tool to try to revive the sensors.  Failing that, you may need to replace the batteries (a rather delicate operation to be successful) or replace the sensors altogether.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: panason1c on August 24, 2017, 08:14:42 AM
Just to add to this thread.......I tried many, many times the gs911 tyre deflate method to attempt to acquire the id of a replacement sensor that I fitted to my wheel, I followed the gs911 instructions carefully, but without success...... I eventually visited my BMW dealer who successfully used their wake up tool and programmed the sensor to the bike.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Bollo on August 28, 2017, 03:24:30 PM
Same problem, I can wake the Sensors an get the pressure on the display but only to the next ignition off/on or for a few minutes.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on August 28, 2017, 03:37:33 PM
HI,
pls can u explain which tool u using and what selection u do to wake the sensor. pls
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Bollo on August 28, 2017, 03:53:00 PM
I wake them up by using the alert mode - works pretty fine.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on September 02, 2017, 07:22:41 AM
hi everyone.
is there special positioning of the tire  while relearning.
this could help everyone.
example like 90 degrees of valve stem.

Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: Jughead on September 04, 2017, 07:25:33 AM
Sensors will go to sleep once the ignition is turned off.  Waking them up just requires some activity.  Ride the bike in excess of 30km/h and they automatically wake up.  Deflating the tyre quickly is another way to get them active.

However, having said that, I have rarely been able to configure NEW sensors by this means.  Creating some activity wakes them up but leave them in Neverland, and without knowing the sensor ID, it remains very difficult to get them configured.  I have also found that where more that one sensor is present, Sensor Learning will be unsuccessful.

The tool I use is a Ateq VT30.

(http://iapdirect.com/images/P/ATEQ_VT30_iapdirect.jpg)

It does not only the BMW sensors but almost any known sensor out there.  Also has periodic software updates to add newer sensors for a huge range of vehicles.

Simply hold the unit near the sensor, push the transmit key and the display reads the ID, tyre pressure etc, etc.  This ID can then be entered manually on the bike.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
Post by: BALVIAMBE on September 07, 2017, 11:10:28 AM
Hi everyone .
bmw r1200gs 2016 model.
job done by using autel ts 401.
upgrade to new firmware.
use either vehicle selection on ts 401.

US/CN Saturn Astra 2010/01-2010/12 315MHz
US/CN Saturn Astra 2008/01-2009/12 433MHz
US/CN Saturn Astra 2010/01-2010/12 433MHz

it took 3 sec to read id and all info from the sensor, without fitting in tire.
so u know whether the sensor is ok or not.
THE REST IS DONE BY GS911 WIFI.
Title: Re: tpms sensor id
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