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Paul Hoffmann

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Re: Battery voltage reads higher than Charging voltage
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2019, 03:45:04 PM »
Looking at the Autoscan why is the actual I level not set?
If it had not been touched from new the I level would read the factory setting.
I recently had my 2017 F700GS updated at my local dealer and the I level is K024-18-07-500, it only cost £25 so not to expensive as this is the only time I pay the dealer (I do my own servicing).
Just curious!!

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Re: Battery voltage reads higher than Charging voltage
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2019, 09:01:48 PM »
My guess based on the searching I've done, the actual level is blank until an update is performed.

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Re: Battery voltage reads higher than Charging voltage
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2019, 02:54:28 AM »
Looking at the Autoscan why is the actual I level not set?
If it had not been touched from new the I level would read the factory setting.
I recently had my 2017 F700GS updated at my local dealer and the I level is K024-18-07-500, it only cost £25 so not to expensive as this is the only time I pay the dealer (I do my own servicing).
Just curious!!

The diagnostics system can either leave Actual blank where no updates have been done after leaving the factory or repeat the factory iLevel in the actual iLevel field, it is really just a question of presentation on screen, leaving Actual blank certainly makes it obvious no updates have been done
« Last Edit: December 23, 2019, 02:56:06 AM by WayneC »

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Re: Battery voltage reads higher than Charging voltage
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2019, 03:08:13 AM »
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The diagnostics system can either leave Actual blank where no updates have been done after leaving the factory or repeat the factory iLevel in the actual iLevel field, it is really just a question of presentation on screen, leaving Actual blank certainly makes it obvious no updates have been done
My Wife's  2015 F700GS has the actual I level not set also even though the dealer was supposed to have done an update (for free), I suspected at the time that they didn't do it and I guess this proves it. Well looks like you get what you pay for.

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Re: Battery voltage reads higher than Charging voltage
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2019, 04:07:50 AM »
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The diagnostics system can either leave Actual blank where no updates have been done after leaving the factory or repeat the factory iLevel in the actual iLevel field, it is really just a question of presentation on screen, leaving Actual blank certainly makes it obvious no updates have been done
My Wife's  2015 F700GS has the actual I level not set also even though the dealer was supposed to have done an update (for free), I suspected at the time that they didn't do it and I guess this proves it. Well looks like you get what you pay for.

The "Program Status" and "Date Release" info for the BMS in the Autoscan along with the "Part No"  can assist in determining if an update has been done

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Re: Battery voltage reads higher than Charging voltage
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2019, 05:50:36 AM »
Hear is scan info before alleged update:

Mileage: 21622.0 km
Cluster date: 20 January 2017
Next service date: 08 May 2025
Next service distance: 76574 km
Factory I-Level: K024-15-03-500
Actual I-Level: Not set
BMS-KP2
BMS type: BMS-KP2
Part No.:8545091
Hardware Index:36
Coding Index:03
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD):2015-01-31
MCV: 0.6.5
FSV: 0.77.57
OSV: 2.3.1
Manufacturer: Bosch
HWOE No.: 68364278
Program status: 570I
Date release: 2E13
Factory I-Level: K024-15-03-500
Actual I-Level: Not set
VIN model year: 2015

And after:

Mileage: 36792.0 km
Cluster date: 07 November 2018
Next service date: 08 May 2025
Next service distance: 76574 km
Factory I-Level: K024-15-03-500
Actual I-Level: Not set
BMS-KP2
BMS type: BMS-KP2
Part No.: 8545091
Hardware Index: 36
Coding Index: 03
Manufacture Date (YY/MM/DD): 2015-01-31
MCV: 0.6.5
FSV: 0.77.57
OSV: 2.3.1
Manufacturer: Bosch GmbH
HWOE No.: 68364278
Program status: 570I
Date release: 2E13
Factory I-Level: K024-15-03-500
Actual I-Level: Not set
VIN model year: 2015

Although I don't know what those numbers you mentioned mean they look the same to me, so no update it seems.

« Last Edit: December 23, 2019, 05:53:43 AM by GS Jim »

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Re: Battery voltage reads higher than Charging voltage
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2019, 06:54:53 AM »
Jim, yes I would agree all looks the same before & after

The iLevel for K024 models went from 16-11-500 to 18-07-500 ie an update in 2018 July for at least one model in the series

From info I have seen, the BMS-KP Part No 8545091 (it is the programmed part No) remained stable so program version was stable but market data updates were possible as well as updates on other ECU's

If the Dealer hooked up & concluded no updates were available & did not complete the "Measures Plan" on their system then Actual iLevel would remain blank but if he ran a measures plan even without an ECU update then actual iLevel should have been written into the bike.

Part of the problem with the older K024 & K1X models is they are programmed with the older "legacy" Dealer software rather than the newer software with diagnostics & programming combined so the Dealer would need to check with the right software & it would surprise me if there were no updates for the ECU's on the F700 by late 2018

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Re: Battery voltage reads higher than Charging voltage
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2019, 05:29:36 PM »
Thanks Wayne, as usual a prompt and knowledgeable response.